If nobody protests I would like to write a bit about these scripts.

How I understand what they are doing and try to make them a bit better
understood and easier to understand for some others.

I think they are very good and even if I do not know much about gtk the
scripts are easy - for me at least - to understand.

I do not know who owns the scripts or if somebody else is going to explain
them.


2010/10/11 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>

> A gui linking the tutorials tut1 to tu7 would be a good start
>
>    load 'C:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut2.ijs'
>    Hello World
> delete event occurred
> destroy event occurred
>    load 'C:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut1.ijs'
>    load 'C:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut3.ijs'
>    Hello again - button1 was pressed
> Hello again - button2 was pressed
> destroy event occurred
>    load 'c:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut4.ijs'
>    Hello again - button1 was pressed
> Hello again - button2 was pressed
> destroy event occurred
>    load 'c:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut5.ijs'
>    window delete event occurred
> destroy event occurred
>    load 'c:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut6.ijs'
>
> 2010/10/8 bill lam <[email protected]>
>
> May be Chris is also waiting for the jhs to clean up the jgtk one. ;-)
>>
>> Please remember that lab and demos is an accumulation of work from more
>> than a
>> dacade, it is not a easy task for Chris and Eric alone to clone them using
>> another gui framework.  It would more reasonable to settle for final J7
>> with a limited gui demo and labs. And then add more in the coming years.
>>
>> Again if you can provide a list of demos or labs that work in current gtk,
>> I'll to happy to add them to a menubar.  However I have no interest to
>> convert current wd gui.
>>
>> Птн, 08 Окт 2010, Björn Helgason писал(а):
>> > There are some basic elements of interest for newcomers/testers and that
>> are
>> > the labs, demos and helps.
>> >
>> > If you do not know what the gui is going to look like or how the labs
>> and
>> > demos should operate nor what the helps will say there is not much
>> testers
>> > can do.
>> >
>> > Even those wanting to experiment do not know what to do.
>> >
>> > That is partly the reason this should possibly be called alpha and not
>> beta.
>> >
>> > In the jhs there are some demos and there are labs.
>> >
>> > Nothing yet similar in the gtk gui.
>> >
>> > Assisting users to get into the minesweeper application from a gtk gui
>> would
>> > help.
>> >
>> > 2010/10/7 Sherlock, Ric <[email protected]>
>> >
>> > > AFAIK that is the plan (similar gui interfaces for JHS & gtk). From
>> > > previous forum messages I think Eric is waiting for the GTK gui to
>> clean up
>> > > the jhs one.
>> > >
>> > > From: Björn Helgason [[email protected]]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:10
>> > >
>> > > It would be good to have both J7 guis look same or similar.
>> > >
>> > > The J7 jhs package manager is in gui but the J7 is not and even if it
>> works
>> > > it is not user friendly.
>> > >
>> > > 2010/10/7 Sherlock, Ric <[email protected]>
>> > >
>> > > > See the following page for instructions on use including how to
>> load.
>> > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JAL/Package%20Manager/jpkg
>> > > >
>> > > > From: Björn Helgason [[email protected]]
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:35
>> > > >
>> > > > I noticed now that I needed to do an update first because jhs was
>> still
>> > > > listed 24 24 and after update it was 24 25
>> > > >
>> > > > Yesterday I think that it did not work first time until after I did
>> > > > showinstall.
>> > > >
>> > > > One thing to note for new uesrs is that the jpkg command does not
>> work
>> > > > until
>> > > > after asking for it from the packman menu - which probably does a
>> load.
>> > > >
>> > > > 2010/10/7 Sherlock, Ric <[email protected]>
>> > > >
>> > > > > Björn,
>> > > > > Are you sure that showupgrade isn't working? The output below
>> looks
>> > > fine
>> > > > to
>> > > > > me.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As far as I'm aware the only thing that might cause it not to show
>> an
>> > > > > available upgrade is if your local copy of the server JAL
>> catalogue
>> > > isn't
>> > > > up
>> > > > > to date.
>> > > > > For that reason you should first do
>> > > > >  'update' jpkg ''
>> > > > > That will make sure you have the most current status of the
>> available
>> > > > > server packages.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Ric
>> > > > >
>> > > > > From: Björn Helgason [[email protected]]
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2010 23:57
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On the jhs side I discovered that one more thing needed upgrade.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It is not easy to see what needs upgrade and showupgrade does not
>> > > always
>> > > > > work.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ......
>> > > > > |tables/wdooo     |1.0.0 |1.0.3 |OpenOffice.org via ole automation
>> > > > >  |
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> +-----------------+------+------+---------------------------------------------+
>> > > > > |web/gethttp      |1.0.1 |1.0.1 |Retrieve files from web
>> > > > >  |
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> +-----------------+------+------+---------------------------------------------+
>> > > > >   'shownotinstalled' jpkg ''
>> > > > >   'help' jpkg ''
>> > > > > Valid options are:
>> > > > >  history, install, manifest, remove, reinstall, show, search,
>> > > > >  showinstalled, shownotinstalled, showupgrade, status,
>> > > > >  update, upgrade
>> > > > >   'showupgrade' jpkg ''
>> > > > > +------------+-----+-----+---------------------------------+
>> > > > > |tables/wdooo|1.0.0|1.0.3|OpenOffice.org via ole automation|
>> > > > > +------------+-----+-----+---------------------------------+
>> > > > >   'upgrade' jpkg 'tables/wdooo'
>> > > > > Installing 1 package
>> > > > > Downloading tables/wdooo...
>> > > > > Installing tables/wdooo...
>> > > > > Done.
>> > > > > All available packages are installed and up to date.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2010/10/6 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I tried 'showupgrade'jpkg'' in j7 gtk but it did not show the
>> needed
>> > > > > > upgrade
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I still maintain both j7w and use that for j7 gtk as well as
>> j701 and
>> > > > use
>> > > > > > for j7 jhs and upgrade both
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > By the way the subject says 22
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 2010/10/5 Eric Iverson <[email protected]>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > JHS JAL update 1.0.24 available.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Many general improvements, but particularly in ijs
>> find/replace.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
>> > > > > > Fornustekkum II
>> > > > > > 781 Hornafirði,
>> > > > > > t-póst: [email protected]
>> > > > > > gsm: +3546985532
>> > > > > > sími: +3544781286
>> > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari
>> > > > einfaldleikans
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af
>> skónum
>> > > > > >           /|_      .-----------------------------------.
>> > > > > >          ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
>> > > > > >      ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
>> > > > > >     /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
>> > > > > >    (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
>> > > > > >    |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>> > > > > >   (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
>> > > > > >    `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
>> > > > > Fornustekkum II
>> > > > > 781 Hornafirði,
>> > > > > t-póst: [email protected]
>> > > > > gsm: +3546985532
>> > > > > sími: +3544781286
>> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari
>> > > einfaldleikans
>> > > > >
>> > > > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af
>> skónum
>> > > > >          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
>> > > > >         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
>> > > > >     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
>> > > > >    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
>> > > > >   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
>> > > > >   |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>> > > > >  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
>> > > > >   `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
>> > > > >
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
>> > > > Fornustekkum II
>> > > > 781 Hornafirði,
>> > > > t-póst: [email protected]
>> > > > gsm: +3546985532
>> > > > sími: +3544781286
>> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari
>> einfaldleikans
>> > > >
>> > > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
>> > > >          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
>> > > >         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
>> > > >     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
>> > > >    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
>> > > >   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
>> > > >   |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>> > > >  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
>> > > >   `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
>> > > >
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > > >
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
>> > > Fornustekkum II
>> > > 781 Hornafirði,
>> > > t-póst: [email protected]
>> > > gsm: +3546985532
>> > > sími: +3544781286
>> > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari
>> einfaldleikans
>> > >
>> > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
>> > >          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
>> > >         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
>> > >     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
>> > >    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
>> > >   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
>> > >   |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>> > >  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
>> > >   `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
>> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
>> > Fornustekkum II
>> > 781 Hornafirði,
>> > t-póst: [email protected]
>> > gsm: +3546985532
>> > sími: +3544781286
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming
>> >
>> >
>> > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari
>> einfaldleikans
>> >
>> > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
>> >           /|_      .-----------------------------------.
>> >          ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
>> >      ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
>> >     /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
>> >    (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
>> >    |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>> >   (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
>> >    `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>> ====================================================
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>> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
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>
>
>
> --
> Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
> Fornustekkum II
> 781 Hornafirði,
> t-póst: [email protected]
> gsm: +3546985532
> sími: +3544781286
> http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming
>
>
> Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans
>
> góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
>           /|_      .-----------------------------------.
>          ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
>      ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
>     /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
>    (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
>    |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>   (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
>    `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
>



-- 
Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
Fornustekkum II
781 Hornafirði,
t-póst: [email protected]
gsm: +3546985532
sími: +3544781286
http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming


Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans

góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
   |     ) |         (\_ _/)
  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
   `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
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