Thanks I will do that
Thanks for the link too. It helps to understand the gtk part. One thing is immediately obvious and that is the J gtk combination is so much nicer than the others presented there. 2010/10/15 bill lam <[email protected]> > Please do it. > > BTW, the official tutorial on gtk is here > http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk-tutorial/stable/ > > Most scripts there should be easily translated into J because J also calls > gtk api directly. > > Птн, 15 Окт 2010, Björn Helgason писал(а): > > If nobody protests I would like to write a bit about these scripts. > > > > How I understand what they are doing and try to make them a bit better > > understood and easier to understand for some others. > > > > I think they are very good and even if I do not know much about gtk the > > scripts are easy - for me at least - to understand. > > > > I do not know who owns the scripts or if somebody else is going to > explain > > them. > > > > > > 2010/10/11 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > > > > > A gui linking the tutorials tut1 to tu7 would be a good start > > > > > > load 'C:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut2.ijs' > > > Hello World > > > delete event occurred > > > destroy event occurred > > > load 'C:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut1.ijs' > > > load 'C:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut3.ijs' > > > Hello again - button1 was pressed > > > Hello again - button2 was pressed > > > destroy event occurred > > > load 'c:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut4.ijs' > > > Hello again - button1 was pressed > > > Hello again - button2 was pressed > > > destroy event occurred > > > load 'c:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut5.ijs' > > > window delete event occurred > > > destroy event occurred > > > load 'c:/j7w/addons/gui/gtk/demo/tut6.ijs' > > > > > > 2010/10/8 bill lam <[email protected]> > > > > > > May be Chris is also waiting for the jhs to clean up the jgtk one. ;-) > > >> > > >> Please remember that lab and demos is an accumulation of work from > more > > >> than a > > >> dacade, it is not a easy task for Chris and Eric alone to clone them > using > > >> another gui framework. It would more reasonable to settle for final > J7 > > >> with a limited gui demo and labs. And then add more in the coming > years. > > >> > > >> Again if you can provide a list of demos or labs that work in current > gtk, > > >> I'll to happy to add them to a menubar. However I have no interest to > > >> convert current wd gui. > > >> > > >> Птн, 08 Окт 2010, Björn Helgason писал(а): > > >> > There are some basic elements of interest for newcomers/testers and > that > > >> are > > >> > the labs, demos and helps. > > >> > > > >> > If you do not know what the gui is going to look like or how the > labs > > >> and > > >> > demos should operate nor what the helps will say there is not much > > >> testers > > >> > can do. > > >> > > > >> > Even those wanting to experiment do not know what to do. > > >> > > > >> > That is partly the reason this should possibly be called alpha and > not > > >> beta. > > >> > > > >> > In the jhs there are some demos and there are labs. > > >> > > > >> > Nothing yet similar in the gtk gui. > > >> > > > >> > Assisting users to get into the minesweeper application from a gtk > gui > > >> would > > >> > help. > > >> > > > >> > 2010/10/7 Sherlock, Ric <[email protected]> > > >> > > > >> > > AFAIK that is the plan (similar gui interfaces for JHS & gtk). > From > > >> > > previous forum messages I think Eric is waiting for the GTK gui to > > >> clean up > > >> > > the jhs one. > > >> > > > > >> > > From: Björn Helgason [[email protected]] > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:10 > > >> > > > > >> > > It would be good to have both J7 guis look same or similar. > > >> > > > > >> > > The J7 jhs package manager is in gui but the J7 is not and even if > it > > >> works > > >> > > it is not user friendly. > > >> > > > > >> > > 2010/10/7 Sherlock, Ric <[email protected]> > > >> > > > > >> > > > See the following page for instructions on use including how to > > >> load. > > >> > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JAL/Package%20Manager/jpkg > > >> > > > > > >> > > > From: Björn Helgason [[email protected]] > > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:35 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I noticed now that I needed to do an update first because jhs > was > > >> still > > >> > > > listed 24 24 and after update it was 24 25 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Yesterday I think that it did not work first time until after I > did > > >> > > > showinstall. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > One thing to note for new uesrs is that the jpkg command does > not > > >> work > > >> > > > until > > >> > > > after asking for it from the packman menu - which probably does > a > > >> load. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 2010/10/7 Sherlock, Ric <[email protected]> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Björn, > > >> > > > > Are you sure that showupgrade isn't working? The output below > > >> looks > > >> > > fine > > >> > > > to > > >> > > > > me. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > As far as I'm aware the only thing that might cause it not to > show > > >> an > > >> > > > > available upgrade is if your local copy of the server JAL > > >> catalogue > > >> > > isn't > > >> > > > up > > >> > > > > to date. > > >> > > > > For that reason you should first do > > >> > > > > 'update' jpkg '' > > >> > > > > That will make sure you have the most current status of the > > >> available > > >> > > > > server packages. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Ric > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > From: Björn Helgason [[email protected]] > > >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2010 23:57 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > On the jhs side I discovered that one more thing needed > upgrade. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > It is not easy to see what needs upgrade and showupgrade does > not > > >> > > always > > >> > > > > work. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > ...... > > >> > > > > |tables/wdooo |1.0.0 |1.0.3 |OpenOffice.org via ole > automation > > >> > > > > | > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > +-----------------+------+------+---------------------------------------------+ > > >> > > > > |web/gethttp |1.0.1 |1.0.1 |Retrieve files from web > > >> > > > > | > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > +-----------------+------+------+---------------------------------------------+ > > >> > > > > 'shownotinstalled' jpkg '' > > >> > > > > 'help' jpkg '' > > >> > > > > Valid options are: > > >> > > > > history, install, manifest, remove, reinstall, show, search, > > >> > > > > showinstalled, shownotinstalled, showupgrade, status, > > >> > > > > update, upgrade > > >> > > > > 'showupgrade' jpkg '' > > >> > > > > +------------+-----+-----+---------------------------------+ > > >> > > > > |tables/wdooo|1.0.0|1.0.3|OpenOffice.org via ole automation| > > >> > > > > +------------+-----+-----+---------------------------------+ > > >> > > > > 'upgrade' jpkg 'tables/wdooo' > > >> > > > > Installing 1 package > > >> > > > > Downloading tables/wdooo... > > >> > > > > Installing tables/wdooo... > > >> > > > > Done. > > >> > > > > All available packages are installed and up to date. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > 2010/10/6 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I tried 'showupgrade'jpkg'' in j7 gtk but it did not show > the > > >> needed > > >> > > > > > upgrade > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I still maintain both j7w and use that for j7 gtk as well as > > >> j701 and > > >> > > > use > > >> > > > > > for j7 jhs and upgrade both > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > By the way the subject says 22 > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 2010/10/5 Eric Iverson <[email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > JHS JAL update 1.0.24 available. > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> Many general improvements, but particularly in ijs > > >> find/replace. > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > > > >> For information about J forums see > > >> > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > > >> > > > > > Fornustekkum II > > >> > > > > > 781 Hornafirði, > > >> > > > > > t-póst: [email protected] > > >> > > > > > gsm: +3546985532 > > >> > > > > > sími: +3544781286 > > >> > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari > > >> > > > einfaldleikans > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af > > >> skónum > > >> > > > > > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > > >> > > > > > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > > >> > > > > > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > > >> > > > > > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > > >> > > > > > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > > >> > > > > > | ) | (\_ _/) > > >> > > > > > (`-. 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