reniera;645517 Wrote:
> Sonos runs without the need to have a server. Why isn't logitec able to
> do that ?
>
That's more or less what I'm suggesting they should do.
It should be possible to either:
- attach a USB drive directly to the player (Touch II or Revue)
- have a NAS or a USB drive attach to your router (Making it possible
to communicate with a simple UPnP storage, this is what Sonos does I
believe)
- access your music in the cloud (if you live in a country where that's
a possibility) (they do support mp3tunes.com already)
- access streaming online services (which already is possible today
without a computer through their mysqueezebox.com service)
Logitech would be able to do this if they wanted to, but they don't
want to target the mass market if it means they will loose the existing
enthusiast users. The enthusiasts don't want a UPnP solution because it
doesn't offer the browsing experience they expect and is used to from
SBS.
So what does Logitech do with LMS ? To better support videos and
pictures in the Logitech Revue ?
They implement a UPnP server on top of SBS and add support for videos
and pictures to SBS. This would have been one way to go if their main
focus would have been to be able to run this either directly on the
Revue, on a separate new player hardware (Touch II), on a NAS hardware
where they partner up with another vendor and offer it pre-installed,
basically if they focused on making it possible to run it without a
computer.
I'm not suggesting a NAS solution where the end user should have to
install and configure anything on the NAS, because that's definitely
not mass market. I'm suggesting that unless Logitech want it to run
directly on the Revue they should sell a box where it is pre-installed,
pre-configured and ready to use, it might be a Touch II or it might be a
NAS box with it pre-installed.
However, they don't do that, their focus is not to be able to run it on
a slow low power hardware, their focus isn't even to make it possible to
run it on a Linux box, their primary focus is to make it possible to run
it on a fast Windows or OSX desktop with lots of memory and CPU,
something the mass market users doesn't want to have powered on while
watching movies on the Revue on the living room. Why would I get a
Revue if I need the computer, in that case I could as well just view
the picture or video directly on the computer and possibly just show
the computer image on the TV, you know, most TV's have a HDMI
connection these days...
All this is IMHO a strong indication that they haven't really
understood what the mass market wants or they aren't targeting the mass
market at all, it's just we that think they are because that's what
Logitech has always done previously as hardware manufacturer. Honestly,
I don't think Revue is targeted at the mass market at the moment, any
mass market user is going to continue using the cable box they get from
the cable company more or less for free when they sign the TV
subscription contract. Also GoogleTV (software is inside the Revue) is
IMHO not targeted at the mass market at the moment, it probably will
eventually but at the moment it's way to geeky for the mass market.
I assume the reason Logitech is doing LMS at all is because the simple
UPnP support in the currently available NAS boxes and routers aren't
good enough for the customers they are targeting. If it were, it would
have been stupid to develop LMS at all because it's just a cost and
then they could just ask the customer to get a router with USB port or
any NAS box available on the market already today which support UPnP,
they could even offer a bundle with one included.
Maybe their issue is that they don't want to invest in more hardware
development and they have tried and know that neither the existing
Revue nor the existing Touch is possible to get fast enough for the
customers they are targeting. It feels like the Revue should be fast
enough but I haven't tried it myself, since it's only sold in US, it
might be running to much other stuff that uses up its memory and CPU.
Personally I can still not understand why anyone, enthusiast or mass
market user, would feel it's good to have their computer powered on
when listening to music, view video or picture in the living room. If
they felt it was good to have the computer powered on, why get another
hardware solution like Squeezebox/Revue, they could just use the
computer they already have.
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