Offtopic: How far is Alembic support in Blender? (I apologize I don't wan't to start a flame war) johannes
On 10 January 2012 11:15, Ton Roosendaal <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > The Collada conformance suite is not working, and working on it won't help > anything. > I wrote about this here; > http://code.blender.org/index.php/2011/10/collada-momentum/ > > Collada just has no reference stakeholder(s) (like how fbx was native for > motionbuilder). > Blender would be the worst stakeholder for it even, since we have the > awesome .blend :) > > Much better stakeholders would be Linden Labs (2nd life), or CryTek... or > Daz? Three names of companies who make plenty of dollars with software > licensing. Why don't they put an employee as developer in our team, to > ensure Collada exports smoothly for their products? > > I even wouldn't mind a (python) addon "Export to DazCollada, CryCollada, > 2ndLifeCollada, etc. It's how collada has been designed to work anyway... > > -Ton- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ton Roosendaal Blender Foundation [email protected] www.blender.org > Blender Institute Entrepotdok 57A 1018AD Amsterdam The Netherlands > > On 10 Jan, 2012, at 0:25, Sebastian wrote: > > > COLLADA has a great conformance test suite at > > http://www.khronos.org/conformance/implementers/collada/ > > > > It's being made available for free and I've already seen Blender results > > uploaded some time ago. > > > > > > > > On 09.01.2012 23:52, spatial wrote: > >>> For the COLLADA community Blender is definitely one of the most > >>> important stakeholders to stop supporting COLLADA would make things in > >>> DCC exchange even worse. > >> I agree. Not to mention all those who co use it alongside LW , all of > >> DAZ products....etc. > >> > >> I actually tried to avoid a discussion here since a long time, > >> but topic is too important. > >> > >> First, kicking out collada from blender doesn't help anyone. None of the > >> "common" interexchange formats is that reliable / support all features. > >> To have at least a second format as a backup strategy, if a certain > >> features arent't supported / have some unreliable results, is a "must > >> have" in every cross application enviroment. > >> > >> And btw, blenders FBX import is, from my experience, still not as > >> reliable as it should be, to actually replace collada. (sorry, this is > >> no actual bashing... its already great what has been archived... > >> especially if you consider that it is allways pain in the ass, to > >> support such a complex exchange format) > >> > >>> We are currently discussing further financing of OpenCOLLADA and will > >>> spend more time the next months on bugfixing and conformance tests. > >>> > >> Sorry to say this, but this is one of the mayor reasons I have to post > this: > >> > >> Conformance tests do only help a little to 0 > >> The big _advantage_ fbx has, is a working reference application called > maya. > >> > >> No conformance test can actually be that foolproof to support all > >> features and variations. So by this simple unoffical agreement,"if it > >> doesn't work in maya - it is broken", users and developers have an ideal > >> platform to discuss errors / find workarounds. This greatly avoids the > >> "picking in the dark" situation all developers currently face with > >> collada. Even if a dev doesn't have access to it, in a lot of cases, he > >> can track down problems reported by users who do provide a simple > >> screenshot. > >> > >> Could this collada reference application be Blender ? > >> For me this is a very attractive idea, but also, I'm very aware of the > fact, > >> that I'm opening a can of worms I'm actually in no way in the right > >> position to touch. > >> > >> Anyway just my 2 cents on this. > >> chris > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bf-committers mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > > _______________________________________________ > > Bf-committers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > > _______________________________________________ > Bf-committers mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > -- ++++++++++++++ johannes amorosa twitter: jamorosa http://iamnotamus.de _______________________________________________ Bf-committers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
