We should take a page from London, put up cameras and make them pay. On 26 Aug 2003 at 20:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It's good to see the city looking into these numbers. > > I couldn't count the number of times I hear people who live elsewhere in > the state comment that they hate coming to Madison because "Madison's" > drivers are so bad. I always tell them they are not really "Madison's" > drivers, but drivers who live outside the city and "just work here". > > Now I got a number to use -- 60,000! No wonder Madison's taxes are so > high. We're subsidizing 60,000 people who pay taxes elsewhere, but > congest our streets and highways, pollute our air, take up our parking > spots and make things unsafe for we pedestrians and bicyclists who try to > live a normal life in this city, 24 hours each day. > > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:41:12 -0500 "William Schaefer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > MPO staff just gave a presentation last night to our Policy Board on > > 2000 Census work trip commuting data. The data is by place of > > residence. We will be putting this data on our web site > > (www.madisonareampo.org) in the next couple of months. > > > > Data by place of work and journey-to-work will be available by the > > end of the year. This will allow us to calcuate means of > > transportation to work for those working (vs. living) in the City of > > Madison/Madison urban area/Dane County. > > > > According to the Census data, there were over 16,000 workers > > residing in adjacent counties commuting to the City of Madison > > compared to almost 60,000 workers from Dane County municipalities. > > Columbia County had the most workers commuting to the City of > > Madison (just over 5,000). Rock County was next highest (2,700). > > > > The percent of Dane County workers commuting to the City of Madison > > and the "Madison urban area" (Madison, Middleton, Fitchburg, Monona, > > McFarland) declined for the first time from 1990 to 2000. The number > > of commuters still increased (by 7,000 to 60,000 to the City of > > Madison and by 10,750 to 51,500 to the urban area - not counting the > > urban area residents). > > > > >>> "timwong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/26/03 12:27AM >>> > > Bill or others, > > > > Do you have the percentage of commuters into Madison/Dane County > > from > > outside the county? I know this number is readily available. I > > think Mike > > is correct that most people from outside the county are not walking > > or > > bicycling, but even if we added all the non-county residents into > > the Dane > > County totals as "Drove alone" and "Carpooled," I don't think it > > would > > change the numbers that much. Unless 40% or more of all commuters > > are from > > outside the county, I think I get Mike's bike (%age needed to water > > down the > > 1.7% figure to less than 1.0%). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > The other group this "Dane County" census does not consider, who > > > certainly add to auto congestion and unhealthy air in Madison (and > > global > > > warming, of course) is the auto commuter traffic to Madison > > originating > > > in Sauk City/Prairee, New Glarus, Columbus, Poynette, Baraboo, > > Barneveld, > > > Portage, Dodgeville, W. Cambridge, Waterloo, Lodi, and all the > > other > > > areas outside of incorporated areas between many of these cities. > > With > > > these auto commuters to Madison included as part of "Madison's" > > commuter > > > traffic problem, I'd bet my bike that the total number of > > bicyclists who > > > exclusively commute to work in Madison noways is less than 1% of > > all > > > those who drive to Madison to work or study, and who are located > > within a > > > 50 mile radius of Madison. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bikies mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies
