i'm unsatisfied; before the word bike station every crossed anybody's lips, autos and bikes didn't really seem to have such problems coexisting in parking garages; i can't think of a single other parking garage in town that doesn't have a rusty bike rack in it somewhere and that has deliberately run the gate arms all the way up to a cement wall and guards the place with a monitor to shoo bikes way; i just parked my bike this afternoon in the concourse hotel's parking garage, one floor below the street in a bike rack at least as old as the hotel; not glitzy, but it works --- Robert F. Nagel [email protected] www.nagel-law.com Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001 Madison, WI 53703 608-255-1501 office 608-255-1504 fax 608-438-9501 cell
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:50 AM, STRAWSER, Charles <[email protected]>wrote: > ** ** ** ** ** ** > > Matt said: So why not plan on accommodating the current demand + induced > demand?**** > > ** ** > > That is Transportation Services’ plan, but it is not everyone’s plan. Also, > the number of bicyclists we are seeing is increasing faster than our > development plans, and in many cases, (like the Memorial Union) the space on > the ground simply isn’t adequate to accommodate the peak number of > bicyclists no matter what you do.**** > > ** ** > > For example, last spring Transportation Services used the most current data > I had collected to ask for 20% more bike parking at Memorial Union than the > peak demand we had observed (the 20% latent demand we estimated was really > just an educated guess). UW Campus Planning and their consultant design firm > responded by proposing 8.25% more bike parking than the peak demand we had > observed.**** > > ** ** > > Three weeks ago we finished collecting data again, and guess what? The new > demand we observed at Memorial Union is 8.5% greater than the last round of > observations. So we recently started asking for new demand plus 20%. But the > plans for Memorial Union have progressed to the point now that allocating > substantially more space for bike parking means basically scrapping the > current site design and starting over. Does anyone think that’s > realistically going to happen with a project that was supposed to start this > January but is behind schedule enough that it is unlikely to start before > 2012 commencement now?**** > > ** ** > > Transportation Services does not get the last word in every aspect of > hundred million dollar construction projects with many competing objectives. > We push as hard as we can push for our needs to get met, and it is making a > difference. A few years ago, major construction projects like Union South > and Memorial Union would have, at best, replaced the previously existing > number of racks without considering (or even really knowing) current demand, > let alone latent demand. Now we typically get something more than current > demand, but probably less than future demand will be. I’d call that > progress.**** > > ** ** > > It would help if the city would start to require an adequate number of bike > parking spaces at properties that are currently exempt from the city’s bike > parking requirements because they were built before the requirements were > adopted. There are many, many UW racks that overflowing because they are > across the street from private housing that has little or no bike parking > (or UW Housing that has an inadequate number of racks – and UW Housing is > supposed to provide and maintain their own racks).**** > > So UW Transportation Services ends up providing bike parking not just for > bicyclists coming to campus buildings, but also for the residents who live > across the street from the ****Pyle** **Center****, or on ****State > St****near Memorial Library, Union South or Computer Science, or anywhere > between > ****University Ave****, Regent, Monroe, and Park Streets.**** > > ** ** > > Where is the long term bike parking plan for the downtown/campus area, and > how is it coming along?**** > > ** ** > > Chuck Strawser > Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner > Commuter Solutions > Transportation Services > UW-Madison > Room 124 WARF > 610 Walnut St > Madison WI 53726 > 608-263-2969 > www.wisc.edu/trans **** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Matt Logan [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Matt Logan > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:19 AM > *To:* **STRAWSER, Charles**; 'Robert F. Nagel' > *Cc:* 'bikies' > *Subject:* RE: [Bikies] rant about union south parking garage bike ban**** > > ** ** > > “So we are steadily making progress, but it will take us several years to > meet our current goals (and, like the construction of more road capacity for > cars, when you plan to meet peak demand, your target capacity is constantly > increasing).”**** > > ** ** > > So why not plan on accommodating the current demand + induced demand?**** > > ** ** >
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