Unless I am mistaken, Union South and the Union South Parking Garage are UW property and the entire rebuild was paid for via student seg fees and private donations. In other words: No tax dollars were spent.
Is this correct? On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Robert F. Nagel <[email protected]>wrote: > i'm unsatisfied; before the word bike station every crossed anybody's lips, > autos and bikes didn't really seem to have such problems coexisting in > parking garages; i can't think of a single other parking garage in town that > doesn't have a rusty bike rack in it somewhere and that has deliberately run > the gate arms all the way up to a cement wall and guards the place with a > monitor to shoo bikes way; i just parked my bike this afternoon in the > concourse hotel's parking garage, one floor below the street in a bike rack > at least as old as the hotel; not glitzy, but it works > > --- > Robert F. Nagel > [email protected] > www.nagel-law.com > Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor > 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001 > Madison, WI 53703 > 608-255-1501 office > 608-255-1504 fax > 608-438-9501 cell > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:50 AM, STRAWSER, Charles < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> ** ** ** ** ** ** >> >> Matt said: So why not plan on accommodating the current demand + induced >> demand?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> That is Transportation Services’ plan, but it is not everyone’s plan. >> Also, the number of bicyclists we are seeing is increasing faster than our >> development plans, and in many cases, (like the Memorial Union) the space on >> the ground simply isn’t adequate to accommodate the peak number of >> bicyclists no matter what you do.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> For example, last spring Transportation Services used the most current >> data I had collected to ask for 20% more bike parking at Memorial Union than >> the peak demand we had observed (the 20% latent demand we estimated was >> really just an educated guess). UW Campus Planning and their consultant >> design firm responded by proposing 8.25% more bike parking than the peak >> demand we had observed.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Three weeks ago we finished collecting data again, and guess what? The new >> demand we observed at Memorial Union is 8.5% greater than the last round of >> observations. So we recently started asking for new demand plus 20%. But the >> plans for Memorial Union have progressed to the point now that allocating >> substantially more space for bike parking means basically scrapping the >> current site design and starting over. Does anyone think that’s >> realistically going to happen with a project that was supposed to start this >> January but is behind schedule enough that it is unlikely to start before >> 2012 commencement now?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Transportation Services does not get the last word in every aspect of >> hundred million dollar construction projects with many competing objectives. >> We push as hard as we can push for our needs to get met, and it is making a >> difference. A few years ago, major construction projects like Union South >> and Memorial Union would have, at best, replaced the previously existing >> number of racks without considering (or even really knowing) current demand, >> let alone latent demand. Now we typically get something more than current >> demand, but probably less than future demand will be. I’d call that >> progress.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> It would help if the city would start to require an adequate number of >> bike parking spaces at properties that are currently exempt from the city’s >> bike parking requirements because they were built before the requirements >> were adopted. There are many, many UW racks that overflowing because they >> are across the street from private housing that has little or no bike >> parking (or UW Housing that has an inadequate number of racks – and UW >> Housing is supposed to provide and maintain their own racks).**** >> >> So UW Transportation Services ends up providing bike parking not just for >> bicyclists coming to campus buildings, but also for the residents who live >> across the street from the ****Pyle** **Center****, or on ****State St*** >> * near Memorial Library, Union South or Computer Science, or anywhere >> between ****University Ave****, Regent, Monroe, and Park Streets.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Where is the long term bike parking plan for the downtown/campus area, and >> how is it coming along?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Chuck Strawser >> Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner >> Commuter Solutions >> Transportation Services >> UW-Madison >> Room 124 WARF >> 610 Walnut St >> Madison WI 53726 >> 608-263-2969 >> www.wisc.edu/trans **** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Matt Logan [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Matt Logan >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:19 AM >> *To:* **STRAWSER, Charles**; 'Robert F. Nagel' >> *Cc:* 'bikies' >> *Subject:* RE: [Bikies] rant about union south parking garage bike ban*** >> * >> >> ** ** >> >> “So we are steadily making progress, but it will take us several years to >> meet our current goals (and, like the construction of more road capacity for >> cars, when you plan to meet peak demand, your target capacity is constantly >> increasing).”**** >> >> ** ** >> >> So why not plan on accommodating the current demand + induced demand?**** >> >> ** ** >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > >
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