I don't need a study showing making it safer is a good thing. I need a study 
showing the lights as planned would make it safer. In the papers and in the one 
meeting I attended, bikers made a good case about the lights as planned 
disrupting night vision. As far as I know MPD is not requesting lights and its 
not clear lights would reduce crime. I'll support the lights if I have a good 
reason to, but I haven't heard a good reason yet. If you can only go 5 mph at 
night, maybe you need a brighter head light? 

Torrey

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: tim wong <[email protected]>
>  To: Torrey <[email protected]>
>  Cc: Matt Logan <[email protected]>, Bikies <[email protected]>
>  Subject: Re: [Bikies] Sly Delivers Fact-Lite Screed on Bike Path Lighting
>  Sent: 11 Jul '12 00:14
>  
>  Scientific analysis is against making the bike path safe???  That bike
>  path is extremely hazardous.  A bicyclist can't really ride more than
>  five mph going down the long hill without endangering running into
>  unlighted bicyclists and pedestrians.  What scientific analysis?  I
>  live on a street with far less traffic than that bike path and I have
>  a streetlight shining right into my bedroom.  Why do you need a study
>  to prove making a bike path safe at night is a good thing?
>  
>  On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Torrey <[email protected]> wrote:
>  > Yeah, Sly doesn't get bikes. Perhaps if someone builds him a recumbent 
> station wagon style bike with simulated wood grain siding, he might be 
> willing to join us for a ride.
>  >
>  > As for the SW path lighting, all the scientific analysis I've heard is 
> against the project. Is there any good study in favor of lighting the path?
>  >
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  > Torrey
>  >
>  >
>  >>  -------Original Message-------
>  >>  From: Matt Logan <[email protected]>
>  >>  To: Bikies <[email protected]>
>  >>  Subject: [Bikies] Sly Delivers Fact-Lite Screed on Bike Path Lighting
>  >>  Sent: 10 Jul '12 19:31
>  >>
>  >>  John ‘Sly’ Sylvester turns in another strident performance of
>  >>  car-supremacist theater:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  [LINK: http://www.forwardlookout.com/?p=15623]
>  >>  http://www.forwardlookout.com/?p=15623
>  >>
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