We don't have a study showing lights on the SW Path south of the Beltline
through the Orchard Ridge and Dunns Marsh/Allied Drive neighborhoods is
safer either but I hope they are not turned off.  

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Torrey
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:35 AM
To: tim wong
Cc: Bikies
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Sly Delivers Fact-Lite Screed on Bike Path Lighting

I don't need a study showing making it safer is a good thing. I need a study
showing the lights as planned would make it safer. In the papers and in the
one meeting I attended, bikers made a good case about the lights as planned
disrupting night vision. As far as I know MPD is not requesting lights and
its not clear lights would reduce crime. I'll support the lights if I have a
good reason to, but I haven't heard a good reason yet. If you can only go 5
mph at night, maybe you need a brighter head light? 

Torrey

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: tim wong <[email protected]>
>  To: Torrey <[email protected]>
>  Cc: Matt Logan <[email protected]>, Bikies 
> <[email protected]>
>  Subject: Re: [Bikies] Sly Delivers Fact-Lite Screed on Bike Path 
> Lighting
>  Sent: 11 Jul '12 00:14
>  
>  Scientific analysis is against making the bike path safe???  That 
> bike  path is extremely hazardous.  A bicyclist can't really ride more 
> than  five mph going down the long hill without endangering running 
> into  unlighted bicyclists and pedestrians.  What scientific analysis?  
> I  live on a street with far less traffic than that bike path and I 
> have  a streetlight shining right into my bedroom.  Why do you need a 
> study  to prove making a bike path safe at night is a good thing?
>  
>  On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Torrey <[email protected]> wrote:
>  > Yeah, Sly doesn't get bikes. Perhaps if someone builds him a recumbent
station wagon style bike with simulated wood grain siding, he might be
willing to join us for a ride.
>  >
>  > As for the SW path lighting, all the scientific analysis I've heard is
against the project. Is there any good study in favor of lighting the path?
>  >
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  > Torrey
>  >
>  >
>  >>  -------Original Message-------
>  >>  From: Matt Logan <[email protected]>  >>  To: Bikies 
> <[email protected]>  >>  Subject: [Bikies] Sly Delivers 
> Fact-Lite Screed on Bike Path Lighting  >>  Sent: 10 Jul '12 19:31  >>  
> >>  John ‘Sly’ Sylvester turns in another strident performance of  >>  
> car-supremacist theater:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  [LINK: http://www.forwardlookout.com/?p=15623]
>  >>  http://www.forwardlookout.com/?p=15623
>  >>
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