Installed lights built along the path are not the only solution to visibility. You don't have to spotlight the path user to know somebody is there. A silhouette will do just as well. Continuous or regularly spaced reflective material that will reflect marginal bicycle lights but also the smidgeon of ambient light will help define an object on the path. The eye/brain is attracted to movement as well as bright objects. The moving occupant (relative to the movement of the viewer) will probably be discerned against the lighter (I didn't say "whiter") shade of the reflective material. Reflectors do not require wiring or electricity after installation, cost less, and can be seasonally be replaced and covered by snow; which will do the same thing. Nor do reflectors upset the balance of ambient light for the neighborhood nature fans and amateur astronomers.
Secondly, how can you complete a safety study comparing portions of the bike path if there aren't any significant data of accidents; especially if accidents don't happen (all that often)? Just my humble 2¢. Darryl Jordan ________________________________ From: Larry D. Nelson <[email protected]> To: Torrey <[email protected]>; tim wong <[email protected]> Cc: Bikies <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, July 11, 2012 8:49:02 AM Subject: Re: [Bikies] Sly Delivers Fact-Lite Screed on Bike Path Lighting We don't have a study showing lights on the SW Path south of the Beltline through the Orchard Ridge and Dunns Marsh/Allied Drive neighborhoods is safer either but I hope they are not turned off. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Torrey Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:35 AM To: tim wong Cc: Bikies Subject: Re: [Bikies] Sly Delivers Fact-Lite Screed on Bike Path Lighting I don't need a study showing making it safer is a good thing. I need a study showing the lights as planned would make it safer. In the papers and in the one meeting I attended, bikers made a good case about the lights as planned disrupting night vision. As far as I know MPD is not requesting lights and its not clear lights would reduce crime. I'll support the lights if I have a good reason to, but I haven't heard a good reason yet. If you can only go 5 mph at night, maybe you need a brighter head light? Torrey > -------Original Message------- > From: tim wong <[email protected]> > To: Torrey <[email protected]> > Cc: Matt Logan <[email protected]>, Bikies > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Sly Delivers Fact-Lite Screed on Bike Path > Lighting > Sent: 11 Jul '12 00:14 > > Scientific analysis is against making the bike path safe??? That > bike path is extremely hazardous. A bicyclist can't really ride more > than five mph going down the long hill without endangering running > into unlighted bicyclists and pedestrians. What scientific analysis? > I live on a street with far less traffic than that bike path and I > have a streetlight shining right into my bedroom. Why do you need a > study to prove making a bike path safe at night is a good thing? > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Torrey <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, Sly doesn't get bikes. Perhaps if someone builds him a recumbent station wagon style bike with simulated wood grain siding, he might be willing to join us for a ride. > > > > As for the SW path lighting, all the scientific analysis I've heard is against the project. Is there any good study in favor of lighting the path? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Torrey > > > > > >> -------Original Message------- > >> From: Matt Logan <[email protected]> >> To: Bikies > <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Bikies] Sly Delivers > Fact-Lite Screed on Bike Path Lighting >> Sent: 10 Jul '12 19:31 >> > >> John ‘Sly’ Sylvester turns in another strident performance of >> > car-supremacist theater: > >> > >> > >> [LINK: http://www.forwardlookout.com/?p=15623] > >> http://www.forwardlookout.com/?p=15623 > >> > >> > >> -------------------- > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bikies mailing list > >> [LINK: [email protected]] > [email protected] >> [LINK: > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org] > >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Bikies mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > -- > "If we continue to consume the world until there's no more to > consume, then there's going to come a day, sure as hell, when our > children or their children or their children's children are going to > look back on us--on you and me--and say to themselves, 'My God, what > kind of monsters were these people?'" > > --Daniel Quinn > _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
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