Question - did they make the left from Mills onto University, or onto Mills from University? Either way, running the red should have been cited.
r On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Clayton Griessmeyer <[email protected]> wrote: > Aaron, > > > > Glad to hear you and family are o.k. > > > > When you contact the officer, you should encourage the officer and his > co-workers to participate in the DOT class below. I am not sure the reason, > but when bicycles are involved in crashes with cars, police often call their > sergeant and then claim fault cannot be determined. I am aware of cases > where the police tell the bicyclist that if they were in a car, the driver > would have been cited, but since it is bike vs. car they cannot determine > fault. Very frustrating. > > > > Take Care, > > > > Clay > > > > > > Law enforcement > > Check out WisDOT's Enforcement for Bicycle Safety (EBS), approved by > Wisconsin Department of Justice Training and Standards Board for 12 hours > Law Enforcement Agency (LEA) officer's credit. Course and manual teach all > aspects of bicycle safety, and which laws to emphasize with child and adult > bicyclists and with motorists to reduce crashes by up to 90%. Officer > awareness of what bicycling is today and how to begin bicycle crash cause > identification are a part of this course. Officer as front line, > on-traffic-duty educator is key. Contact Larry Corsi, > [email protected], WisDOT or Peter Flucke, WE BIKE® (920) 497-3196. > > LEA's may also be interested in Policing By Bicycle training for officers. > These courses do not emphasize citizen safety on bicycles, but do cover > officer safety and health issues as well as all aspects of using a bicycle > for the full range of policing duties. If LEA's are putting officers on > bicycles for policing work, one of these courses should be considered for > every such officer. > > There are two certification programs: > > · IPMBA, International Police Mountain Bike Association, developed by the > League of American Bicyclists. Wisconsin contacts include: Tom Sipin, West > Allis Police Department; Dave Johnson, Oshkosh Police Department; and Peter > Flucke, WE BIKE®(920) 497-3196 > > · LEBA, Law Enforcement Bicycle Association, developed by Paul Grady. > Wisconsin contacts include: Sgt. Kurt Feavel, UW-Madison Police Department > (608) 262-4520. > > > > > > From: Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aaron > Crandall > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:52 AM > To: Robbie Webber; India Viola > Cc: Bikies ListServe > > > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Contraflow Lane on University > > > > Good point Robbie, > > > > I have the case # and also the name and contact info for both the officer > and also the motorist, so maybe I'll contact the officer and ask for more > info on why he chose to not followup and consider issuing a citation or > investigate the crash further, etc. The more I think about it, the more > upset and/concerned I am, especially thinking of worse-case scenarios that > could have happened, but thankfully did not. > > > > Aaron > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Robbie Webber <[email protected]> > To: India Viola <[email protected]> > Cc: Aaron Crandall <[email protected]>; Bikies ListServe > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 6:20 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Contraflow Lane on University > > > > How can the police not ticket the driver? Running a red light. Illegal left. > Failure to yield. > > > > I don't understand how a driver can hit a bicyclist with a child in tow and > get away without a ticket! And we know that bicyclists get ticketed without > the police officer witnessing the crash - sometimes while the bicyclist is > in the hospital! > > > > > Robbie Webber > Transportation Policy Analyst > 608-263-9984 (o) > > 608-225-0002 (c) > > [email protected] > > All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my > employer or any other group with which I am affiliated. > > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:46 PM, India Viola <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry Aaron. That sucks. > > Glad you are both physically unharmed. > > Riding with precious cargo ups the ante in a big way, doesn't it? > > Thanks for sharing. It's a good reminder that (unfortunately) we usually > need to ride as if drivers can't/don't see us. > > > > india > > > > > > > WeAreAllMechanics.com > [email protected] > > Stay connected- Follow WAAM on Facebook > > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Aaron Crandall <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > What are the chances? > > > > I was biking down University in the contraflow lane with my daughter (Mali) > behind me in the trailer yesterday and had the green light at Mills, but > noticed the driver and passenger of a green Audi both staring down > University in the other direction watching for traffic. Instead of stopping > and making sure to make eye contact, I proceeded since I assumed the driver > would be respecting the red light and stay stopped. I was wrong! > > > > As soon as me and Mali were smack-dab in front, the driver decided to > instead treat the red light like it was a stop sign and unfortunately for me > and Mali, did not notice the bike lane with traffic coming from the opposite > direction...CRASH! Thank goodness for me and Mali, especially Mali, that he > did not take off more quickly than he did, and reacted quickly by braking. > Ultimately, we think he crashed into the bike trailer, which caused me to go > down to the ground, and we're thankful that Mali was in the seat on my left, > so further away from the impact. > > > > Amazingly enough, it doesn't appear that any damage was done to either my > bike or the trailer, but my wife probably almost suffered a heart attack > from watching while riding behind us on her bike. Long story short, I'm > going to make it more of a priority to ensure eye contact with others, > especially while riding in a contraflow lane where maybe others users might > not be expecting traffic. > > > > The driver was not cited, and the police simply filed a short form, in case > of any necessary insurance claims, etc. > > > > I still can't believe that (a) I was hit and (b) I had Mali with me in the > trailer when it had to happen. > > > > Aaron > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > -- Just imagine a really neat quote here _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
