The wayfinding signs that Fitchburg installed on the Cannonball are really nice. Whoever helped get them designed and installed did a great job. Would be nice for Madison to follow that lead.
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 17:19 India Viola <[email protected]> wrote: > Wayfinding signs with distance and estimated time are a great idea. > > india > > WeAreAllMechanics.com > [email protected] > > Stay connected- Follow WAAM on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/We.Are.All.Mechanics> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Harald Kliems <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is something that Mia Birk of Alta Planning mentioned in one of her >> talks: people driving tend to overestimate how long biking to a destination >> takes while underestimating how long driving takes. To fix the former, >> Portland (Ore.) installed a lot of way finding signs that include distance >> and time to destination (I believe based on an 8 mph average speed). I >> think something like that would be great for Madison. >> >> Harald >> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:46 PM Grant Foster <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Distance isn't necessarily a good proxy for easier/faster/more >>> convenient for transit vs bike. Ease and convenience are pretty relative >>> and subjective terms, but biking is probably faster than transit for a lot >>> of people. I live 8.5 miles away from my work (Dempsey/Cottage Grove Rd to >>> Todd Dr./Frontage Rd.) and have a bus stop right outside my front door and >>> relatively close to my workplace. Google maps estimates my time by bike to >>> be 43 minutes (real world time for me is ~35 minutes during most of the >>> year and closer to 45 minutes in the winter). Google puts my trip by bus at >>> 1:04 minutes. I actually need to leave by 6:51 in order to get to work by >>> 8:00, so there's also that wait time as compared to a bike. If I worked at >>> UW Hospital it would take me 1:05 by bus vs. 39 minutes by bike. It'd be >>> cool if someone could do a visualization of trip times for transit vs. bike >>> in Madison and I bet a lot of people would be surprised at how quick biking >>> is, especially when compared to transit. >>> >>> If you live and work in Madison, it's hard to beat a bike to get you >>> where you need to be. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 2:43:46 PM Robbie Webber <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I was actually sort of impressed that so many people mentioned the need >>>> for improved and more bike parking (and showers, locker rooms, etc.) What >>>> that shows, along with the very high mode split among people making > >>>> $55,000, is that people who likely have a transportation choice are opting >>>> to bike. We have excellent facilities as far as the average American city >>>> or workplace goes. I wonder how many other workplaces with over 15,000 >>>> employees and 40,000+ other daily commuters have parking as good as ours. >>>> >>>> But I was also very surprised that biking was so far ahead of transit. >>>> Obviously, that's for good weather. Do people in that income category live >>>> significantly closer so that biking is easier/faster/more convenient than >>>> bus? >>>> >>>> And the attitudes and mode splits at the Hospital just seemed to be so >>>> radically different. Some of it is surely due to scheduling, but it can't >>>> all be that. >>>> >>>> Robbie Webber >>>> Transportation Policy Analyst >>>> 608-263-9984 (o) >>>> 608-225-0002 (c) >>>> [email protected] >>>> All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those >>>> of my employer or any other group with which I am affiliated. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:58 PM, STRAWSER, Charles < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> “Also mentioned is better/more bike parking” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yep. Working on that. And we passed a milestone in fall 2014 – we now >>>>> have more free bike parking spaces on campus than we spaces for cars. >>>>> >>>>> Roughly 13,100 bike parking spaces vs about 13,000 car spaces. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And we have already replaced all but about 600 of the old, awful bike >>>>> racks on campus (you know, the wheelbenders, and the “wave” racks that are >>>>> so popular with architects because they look pretty when empty). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Most dorms now have 1 bike parking space for every 2 residents >>>>> (Sellery and Witte are notable exceptions, but there’s a $40 million >>>>> project there that should improve bike parking there). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And we’re not done yet. Our goal is 14,500 spaces that all meet campus >>>>> standards by 2017. >>>>> >>>>> And we are on track to do that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’ve started working on UW-Madison’s reapplication to League of >>>>> American Bicyclists for a better Bicycle Friendly University status (we >>>>> were named silver in 2011), and honestly, more and better bike parking is >>>>> the main obstacle to gold (or perhaps even platinum) status, imo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But I’d welcome your comments here , or directly to me, about that. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf >>>>> Of *Robbie Webber >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:27 PM >>>>> *To:* Bikies >>>>> *Subject:* [Bikies] Survey of UW transportation issues >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Very interesting responses. There are actually two documents: one >>>>> <http://transportation.wisc.edu/files/SurveyReports/2014SurveyReportMain.pdf> >>>>> is just the percentages of people that answered questions in a certain >>>>> way, >>>>> and the appendices >>>>> <http://transportation.wisc.edu/files/SurveyReports/2014SurveyReportAppendices.pdf> >>>>> include comments verbatim. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I found several things especially interesting. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Biking to campus is the second highest mode after driving alone for >>>>> faculty and staff making over $55,000/yr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The comments section was especially interesting and had a number of >>>>> strong themes: >>>>> >>>>> - Faculty/staff that drive part way into the city and then either >>>>> bike or take the bus, >>>>> - Faculty/staff that love the bus pass program, >>>>> - Faculty/staff complaining about the cost of parking on campus, >>>>> - Hospital employees overwhelmingly complained about parking, but >>>>> many more issues than just the cost, although that was also the top >>>>> complaint. Schedules or the bus and work not matching are significant >>>>> problems. >>>>> - Hospital employees are much more outright hostile to UW Parking >>>>> and Transportation Services than other groups. Many m ore comments that >>>>> said, "We shouldn't have to pay to come to work." >>>>> - Faculty/staff that would like better transit options to allow >>>>> them to drive less. These include longer hours of service/more >>>>> frequency, >>>>> service to areas that don't have it now, and more direct connections to >>>>> campus from some areas. Also mentioned is better/more bike parking and >>>>> showers. >>>>> - Students complaining about overcrowded buses. Faculty/staff too, >>>>> but the #80 seems to be the biggest problem. >>>>> - Very few faculty, staff, or students use Monona Transit. More UW >>>>> Hospital employees use Monona Transit. >>>>> >>>>> I have a bit more sympathy for the hospital employees that work off >>>>> hours, have to go to multiple locations of UW Clinics, or are "on call," >>>>> so >>>>> may not be able to plan travel easily. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But there also seem to be a significant number of people in both >>>>> professional categories (I'm leaving out students) who need to be a little >>>>> more creative about using more than one mode to get to work. Except for >>>>> maybe living somewhere car-dependent (which is a different subject), there >>>>> is nothing wrong with driving in from your home in the 'burbs or farther >>>>> reaches of Madison, parking for free on the street, and then jumping on >>>>> the >>>>> bus or your bike for the rest of the journey. Many people have obviously >>>>> figured that out, but many more just can't wrap their head around the idea >>>>> that the journey to work can involve more than one mode. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Robbie Webber >>>>> Transportation Policy Analyst >>>>> 608-263-9984 (o) >>>>> >>>>> 608-225-0002 (c) >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those >>>>> of my employer or any other group with which I am affiliated. >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bikies mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >
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