I have an identical experience as Matthew from the mid 80's in Madison. Registered high end road bike; stolen from a locked house. I knew where the bike was, based on a witness report. Madison police would not even interview the thief or attempt to recover. Vowed at the time to never register another bike in Madison. I photograph all current bicycles and the serial number; keep all receipts and purchase full insurance coverage. Auto break ins my neighborhood receive much more substantial investigations. Get the impression that the MPD views bicycle thefts like toy thefts.

Brian Mink

Matthew Logan <mailto:[email protected]>
Monday, June 15, 2015 7:38 PM

I had a bike stolen about 10 years ago. It was registered. I even know about where the person who stole it lives, and have a witness.

However, the MPD refuses to investigate bicycle thefts for bicycles worth less than $2,500. I filed a report and the MPD never did anything.

I discovered a few other things:

The bicycle recovery unit is very, very, very slow to respond to a report of an abandoned bicycle. The bicycle recovery unit does not regularly monitor typical stolen bicycle dumping grounds. The police will not produce a press release of a rash of bike thefts in a neighborhood. (but they will issue a press release when $20 of gasoline is siphoned out of a car, or when a rash of car break-ins occur).


Now since 2010, I have noticed the MPD has been involved in a few "sting" operations, so at least they are going after the major operators.

So while registering your bicycle improves your odds, the real bottleneck appears to remain the police department.

*From:*Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *William Hauda
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Arthur is correct. Keep records with serial numbers listed and take photos of your bikes and other property. In the case of home or rental property insurance, photos are essential in filing claims when there is theft or damage. If you're taking a charitable deduction on your income for a gift of property, along with the receipt, take a photo of the property in case challenged by the IRS. Pretty much common sense.

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Monday, June 15, 2015 7:11 AM

John, I wonder if there is an opportunity here. Would it be helpful if the Supervisor of the Police Property Room could be approached to determine if the staff could check the data bases that have been mentioned in this thread as a part of their intake procedure? Or enlist assistance from volunteers?

Obviously, the best system would be to replicate the vehicle registration system of the WIDOT but it is necessary to secure the information regarding the owner and the serial number. But Bikies are not known for wanting to part with their dollar or have their bikes registered. And police administrators are often focused on what they determine to be the problem.

Regardless, I think that this problem can be fixed if the right people get in the same room, share information, and propose alternatives.

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According to State Statutes, the fees collected can only go toward the cost of maintaining the program. Those costs include the part time registration coordinator, materials, any publicity costs, Safety Education (potentially if better compliance brought in more funds), etc. I believe that the program has been close to breaking even for most years, but not sure since I did not know all of the behind the scenes overhead costs, etc.

As for impact on lost or stolen bicycles, the former Bicycle Recovery person for the Police Property Room has said many times that she was thrilled any time a bike with a registration sticker was recovered. Because if it was registered, they got it back to its owner. If it wasn't registered, there was little chance they could find the owner.

FYI: I was the Bicycle Registration Coordinator from late 2004 until Spring 2014.

John Rider

*From:*Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *William Hauda
*Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:55 PM
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    Kurt:
From, what I've been told it just pays for salaries for city employees, but has no direct impact on lost or stolen bikes. People in the know on this list can feel free to correct me if if I am misinformed.
    Bill

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Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:15 PM

According to State Statutes, the fees collected can only go toward the cost of maintaining the program. Those costs include the part time registration coordinator, materials, any publicity costs, Safety Education (potentially if better compliance brought in more funds), etc. I believe that the program has been close to breaking even for most years, but not sure since I did not know all of the behind the scenes overhead costs, etc.

As for impact on lost or stolen bicycles, the former Bicycle Recovery person for the Police Property Room has said many times that she was thrilled any time a bike with a registration sticker was recovered. Because if it was registered, they got it back to its owner. If it wasn't registered, there was little chance they could find the owner.

FYI: I was the Bicycle Registration Coordinator from late 2004 until Spring 2014.

John Rider

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    Kurt:
From, what I've been told it just pays for salaries for city employees, but has no direct impact on lost or stolen bikes. People in the know on this list can feel free to correct me if if I am misinformed.
    Bill


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Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:54 PM
    Kurt:
From, what I've been told it just pays for salaries for city employees, but has no direct impact on lost or stolen bikes. People in the know on this list can feel free to correct me if if I am misinformed.
    Bill



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Exactly where does that money go?



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