Agreed. WeAreAllMechanics.com [email protected]
Stay connected- Follow WAAM on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/We.Are.All.Mechanics> *"How can we learn from our mistakes if we don't first acknowledge them?" * On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Grant Foster <[email protected]> wrote: > This is the main argument against sidepaths (essentially wide sidewalks) > and the main argument for one-way protected bike lanes with appropriate > design elements at driveways and intersections. > > I think this is why you see some people on bikes preferring on-street > lanes (even if they're unprotected) over sidepaths and has led to what I > think is an awkward design compromise of a sidepath + unprotected on-street > lanes (University Ave, and coming soon Pleasant View). There's an imaginary > distinction that's been internalized by designers that there are confident > cyclists who want to be exposed to high-speed, high-volume traffic in order > to save a second on their commute and cautious cyclists who want to be as > far away from MVs as possible and don't mind taking a lot of extra time. I > would argue that designing high quality, one-way, protected bike lanes > would best meet the needs and preferences of all people on bikes 8-80. > > Grant > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Doug Adler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I would only want a designated path if it were part of the roadway. I >> used to bike FH every day and stopped using the "sidewalk" paths due to all >> the close calls with left and right turners and cross traffic >> cruising through the path before stopping. I think drivers are more likely >> to notice bikes on the roadway than on a path 10 feet away from the road. >> >> -Doug Adler >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Margie Franzen <[email protected]> >> *To:* William Hauda <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Friday, August 07, 2015 11:58 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Bikies] biking the wrong way on Fish Hatchery >> >> As someone who bikes in the right direction (with traffic) for work on >> Fish Hatchery and as someone who was very nearly killed by an left-turning >> city truck at the new intersection with FH by the new UW clinic: yes, >> please, please get a designated path. A white stripe doesn't protect >> against the dump trucks, the semis, the busses....all passing barely a foot >> from my left shoulder. >> Many thanks, >> Margie Franzen >> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Hauda <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Crossing Fish Hatchery Road from Cannonball to get on the northbound >>> bike lane is risky and time consuming, especially in rush hour traffic. The >>> simplest, safest, and most cost-effective solution is to have a path that >>> parallels Fish Hatchery Road adjacent to the Arboretum property and >>> connecting to the Wingra path. I don't know the Fish Hatchery Road easement >>> width, who owns what, what the cost of a bike bridge over Wingra Creek >>> would be, but this would certainly be less expensive than building a new >>> bridge over Fish Hatchery Road and constructing the tail on the other side. >>> >>> On 8/7/2015 11:35 AM, Ian Alderman wrote: >>> >>> Yes, this is along the Arboretum. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Robbie Webber <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It could also be that one or more people need to travel a short >>>> distance to a destination on Fish Hatch on the same side of the road, and >>>> they don't want to try to try to cross peak hour traffic twice to reach >>>> their destination. Is it the area next to the Arboretum where there is no >>>> sidewalk? >>>> >>>> Robbie Webber >>>> Transportation Policy Analyst >>>> 608-263-9984 (o) >>>> 608-225-0002 (c) >>>> [email protected] >>>> All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those >>>> of my employer or any other group with which I am affiliated. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ian Alderman < >>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've seen this three days in a row now, during my morning (car) >>>>> commute: Darwin award candidate bikers biking North on Fish Hatchery >>>>> facing >>>>> MV traffic going Southbound. I think this is because of the gap between >>>>> the >>>>> Cannonball Trail and destinations to the North. I expect this will go on >>>>> until this gap is filled. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Bikies mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing >>> [email protected]http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > >
_______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
