I would only want a designated path if it were part of the roadway.  I used to 
bike FH every day and stopped using the "sidewalk" paths due to all the close 
calls with left and right turners and cross traffic cruising through the path 
before stopping.  I think drivers are more likely to notice bikes on the 
roadway than on a path 10 feet away from the road.

-Doug Adler

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Margie Franzen 
  To: William Hauda 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 11:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [Bikies] biking the wrong way on Fish Hatchery


  As someone who bikes in the right direction (with traffic) for work on Fish 
Hatchery and as someone who was very nearly killed by an left-turning city 
truck at the new intersection with FH by the new UW clinic: yes, please, please 
get a designated path. A white stripe doesn't protect against the dump trucks, 
the semis, the busses....all passing barely a foot from my left shoulder.
  Many thanks,
  Margie Franzen


  On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Hauda <[email protected]> wrote:

        Crossing Fish Hatchery Road from Cannonball to get on the northbound 
bike lane is risky and time consuming, especially in rush hour traffic. The 
simplest, safest, and most cost-effective solution is to have a path that 
parallels Fish Hatchery Road adjacent to the Arboretum property and  connecting 
to the Wingra path. I don't know the Fish Hatchery Road easement width, who 
owns what, what the cost of a bike bridge over Wingra Creek would be, but this 
would certainly be less expensive than building a new bridge over Fish Hatchery 
Road and constructing the tail on the other side.


    On 8/7/2015 11:35 AM, Ian Alderman wrote:

      Yes, this is along the Arboretum. 


      On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Robbie Webber <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        It could also be that one or more people need to travel a short 
distance to a destination on Fish Hatch on the same side of the road, and they 
don't want to try to try to cross peak hour traffic twice to reach their 
destination. Is it the area next to the Arboretum where there is no sidewalk?


        Robbie Webber
        Transportation Policy Analyst
        608-263-9984 (o)

        608-225-0002 (c)

        [email protected]
        All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those 
of my employer or any other group with which I am affiliated.


        On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ian Alderman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          I've seen this three days in a row now, during my morning (car) 
commute: Darwin award candidate bikers biking North on Fish Hatchery facing MV 
traffic going Southbound. I think this is because of the gap between the 
Cannonball Trail and destinations to the North. I expect this will go on until 
this gap is filled. 

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