I think the company may have just made an honest error in placing the stop signs. Obviously they meant to have them facing the roadway, not the trail, so that their drivers and other people on Marketplace are reminded of their crosswalk obligations. Maybe you or another trail user should help them fix their mistake and just turn the signs 90 degrees... I'm sure they'll appreciate the help.
Harald. On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:42 PM Clayton Griessmeyer via Bikies < [email protected]> wrote: > Has anyone else noticed the foldable stop signs placed on Badger State > Trail in Fitchburg where it crosses Marketplace. The signs have a > construction company name on them. Homburg. I have heard it is because > the drivers of the big dump drunks that take the corner at high speeds are > afraid they are going to hit someone in the crosswalk. Basically, they are > planning ahead for when they injure or kill someone. They want to be able > to use a foldable stop sign to blame the pedestrian or bicyclist. > > > > There is a marked crosswalk where the trail crosses the roadway. > > > > I wish people would just slow and or stop their cars and trucks for people > crossing the roadway on foot and bicycle rather than trying to place > additional signs so when they violate the law, fail to yield, and then kill > someone, that they can blame the person, and say there is a stop sign. Why > do we have yield and stop signs where paths cross roadways? Are walkers > and bicyclists unable to see that the path they are on is about to cross a > roadway with motor vehicle traffic and the only thing that alerts them to > this is a stop or yield sign on the path? Have we given up on enforcing > yield to pedestrians in crosswalks and rather than try to enforce that law, > just changed things so the pedestrian or cyclist is the one who has to > yield? If we get rid of stop and yield signs along paths, will everyone > start throwing themselves in front of motor vehicles? > > > > If we are going to have stop and yield signs to attempt to send a message > that cars have the right of way, then why even have crosswalks in the > roadways signaling right of way to pedestrians and cyclists. What do you > think the dump truck drivers think the crosswalk at Marketplace means? > When someone places a foldable stop sign on the bike path does it make the > drivers of the dump trucks more careful or less careful? > > > > A stop sign on the path sends the wrong message to drivers considering > there is a state law that requires drivers to yield to pedestrians and > cyclists in crosswalks. > > > > Drivers in Wisconsin are already clueless regarding yield to pedestrian > and bicyclists in crosswalk laws. On Main Street in Verona where Military > Ridge Crosses, they recently installed flashing beacons and signs in the > roadway that say state law yield to pedestrians. I recently pressed the > button and began crossing. Despite facing a yield to pedestrian sign in > the roadway and two flashing beacons, and seeing me crossing the road > towards the front of her vehicle, a driver yelled at me and gave me a dirty > look. If we can’t get people to yield with beacons and signs in the actual > roadway what else is there to do? I would think the first thing that comes > out of someone’s mouth after they hit someone in one of these crosswalks > is, “You had a stop sign,” or “You had a yield sign.” > > > > 346.24 Crossing at uncontrolled intersection or crosswalk. > > (1) At an intersection or crosswalk where traffic is not controlled by > traffic control signals or by a traffic officer, the operator of a vehicle > shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian, or to a person riding a > bicycle or electric personal assistive mobility device in a manner which is > consistent with the safe use of the crosswalk by pedestrians, who is > crossing the highway within a marked or unmarked crosswalk. > > > > Sorry for the long rant. It is very frustrating for me to see and I use > this trail daily. > > > > Clayton Griessmeyer > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >
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