Heavily polluting snowmobiles should be banned nationwide, certainly on bike paths. Let the snowmobiles ride on the car streets and highways.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Michael Rewey via Bikies < [email protected]> wrote: > Grant. Contact me. I was directly involved with money and design and got > the DNR to revive > an old transportation $$ application, which they got. The non-paving in > Verona was a DNR > concession to snowmobile groups - do not blame Verona. It had nothing to > do with > maintenance. > > Mike Rewey (retired WisDOT) > > > On 14 Apr 2016 at 16:10, tim wong via Bikies wrote: > > Date sent: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:10:06 -0500 > To: "Ross, Arthur" <[email protected]> > Copies to: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Military Ridge Trail in Verona > From: tim wong via Bikies <[email protected]> > Send reply to: tim wong <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> > > > Could Verona possibly be a little more enlightened now, with the passage > of time and the > increasing popularity of bicycling, and the fact that road riders might > have money to spend as > well. Is that the trail that goes right through Verona? > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Ross, Arthur via Bikies < > [email protected]> wrote: > If my memory is accurate, I recall that at one point quite a few years > ago > when DNR paved the section of the Military Ridge Trail from McKee > Road to PB, they proposed paving the section from PB to Verona. > They needed or wanted Verona to approve this, perhaps to pay > or share in the costs or for a maintenance agreement, but Verona > declined. You might check with the WisDNR Southern Unit (based out > of Fish Hatchery Road), or with Central Office, to explore options for > discussing paving this section. > > Arthur Ross, Pedestrian-Bicycle Coordinator > City of Madison, Traffic Engineering Division > 215 Martin Luther King, Jr., Blvd., Suite 100 > PO Box 2986 > Madison, WI 53701-2986 > 608-266-6225 > > From: Bikies <[email protected]> on behalf of gordon > sussman via > Bikies <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 9:08 AM > To: Grant Foster > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Military Ridge Trail in Verona > > My understanding is that's part of the (State owned/administered) > Military Ridge Trail, administered out of Blue Mound State Park. I > believe the contact is Kevin Swenson ([email protected] > ). My guess is that, as it's a snowmobile trail and snowmobilers put > up a > lot more $$ than bikers, and pavement and sleds are a bad > combination, it's a difficult work-out. Just speculating here... > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Grant Foster via Bikies > <[email protected]> wrote: > Also, FWIW, I'm a guy that thinks riding 100 miles on gravel roads > is fun and who loves riding crushed limestone trails generally. > When I say it's unrideable, it's because it's really, really bad. > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:41 AM Robert F. Nagel > <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks. Perhaps now that the ground is unfrozen, it's time for > that. Anybody know when that will happen? > --- > > > Robert F. Nagel, Attorney > Law Offices of Robert Nagel > [email protected] > www.nagel-law.com > Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor > 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001 > Madison, WI 53703 > 608-255-1501 office > 608-255-1504 fax > 608-438-9501 cell > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Grant Foster > <[email protected]> wrote: > I would call it unrideable right now. I rode PB to Franklin > on Tuesday and it was dry, but so rutted that I wouldn't > suggest riding it to anyone. This was unloaded with 32c > tires. I do think paving is the long-term answer for this > stretch, but agree that some grooming and addition of > gravel would improve things significantly. This has > happened at least the last three spring seasons. > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:30 AM Robert F. Nagel > <[email protected]> wrote: > Good question. I have a more narrow one though. > How is the trail now? The ruts were so bad the last > time I went out to it, it wasn't rideable. Is it rideable > yet? Does it get groomed at all? Could it be > groomed perhaps to be made rideable earlier in the > season? I can't imagine a better use for the trail fees > other than to take care of the trail. If it's not being > groomed, what is happening to the fees? > > Sorry, I know I said my question would be more > narrow, but I guess I ended up with more than > question, some of which may not be so narrow, but > at least I didn't jump the trail. > > --- > > > Robert F. Nagel, Attorney > Law Offices of Robert Nagel > [email protected] > www.nagel-law.com > Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor > 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001 > Madison, WI 53703 > 608-255-1501 office > 608-255-1504 fax > 608-438-9501 cell > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Grant Foster via > Bikies <[email protected]> wrote: > Good morning, > > Does anyone have any background or contacts > related to paving the Military Ridge Trail from > PB to 18/151 on the southwest side of Verona? > > This section of path gets very high usage and > the current conditions result in an almost > unusable trail each spring. Walkers and joggers > and cyclists can't keep off of it in late > winter/early spring when it's very wet and their > footprints and wheel ruts then harden when > things dry out. It takes quite a while for the trail > to become rideable again, even with fatter > tires. Given its location in an urban setting and > its importance to accessing a very large > employment center, this path should be paved. > > Would Dane Co. Parks be the lead on this sort > of thing? Is the obstacle financial or is it about > snowmobile access? I'd be interested in > working with some folks to try and make > progress on it. Thanks. > > Grant > > _____________________________________ > __________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danene > t.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > -- > Last month I was fined $1221 by the city for having wildflowers in my > terrace and a burning bush in my > yard. 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The trial occurred more than three months after the city council approved the "Pollinator Protection Task Force" report which seeks to protect pollinators--bees, butterflies, moths, bats, hummingbirds, etc., and preserve pollinator habitat But the city's Building Inspection Division continues to order plantings that pollinators use removed and is prosecuting people such as me who don't comply. I have drafted a petition that I would like others to sign: http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/revise-ordinances-banning-flowers-in-yards-and-terrace (note you do not need to live in the Atwood neighborhood to sign.)
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