They might work better than standard signs, but they don't work well. I rode through this morning as a driver was stopped there looking left. I told my boys to be very careful crossing, because I had a hunch. Right after they passed her, she started to turn right on red (without ever turning her head to the right) and very nearly ran over a woman on a bike that was riding right behind my boys. I yelled loud enough that the driver slammed on her brakes before running the woman over.
This is so incredibly common at this corner (Division onto Eastwood). Right turn on red should be banned in urban environments where people are walking and biking through crosswalks (just like many civilized countries do). I have asked TE to consider adding the green material to this crossing as it might help some, but these are terrible spots for people on bikes and people on foot. On Tue, May 31, 2016, 21:09 Paul T. O'Leary via Bikies < [email protected]> wrote: > On 2016/05/30 21:51, Mark Clear via Bikies wrote: > > Hello Bikies, > > > > I got a tweet last week complaining that motorists don't obey the "no > > turn on red" on westbound Rimrock at John Nolen, putting cyclists on > > the trail at risk. Anyone else with this experience? Thanks. > > > > Mark Clear > > I wonder if any studies have been done on the effectiveness of the > "light-up" NTOR signs that light up based on the traffic signal status. > E.g. Atwood Ave at the Harmony Bar corner. As a motor vehicle driver, I > find them eye-catching. If I had my druthers, every NTOR in the state > would be so rigged. Either that, or the statute language / signage would > be "flipped", so that the corners that _allow_ turn on red would have a > "Right Allowed on Red After Stop (xxx time range)" sign, and the law > would explicitly forbid the turn unless the sign is present (and in > effect). I'm, er, not holding my breath. Meanwhile, this intersection > would be an ideal candidate for a light-up sign, if indeed they're as > effective as they appear (to me) to be. > > -- > Paul T. O'Leary > Chronic Nuisance > Madison, WI USA > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >
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