Thank you very much for your reply, Wayne. Also many thanks to ĸen,
Armin and Bruce for their posts.

Em 06-05-2014 05:43, Wayne Blaszczyk escreveu:
> On 06/05/14 07:48, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
>> Em 05-05-2014 12:05, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
>>> Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems that many python modules are going to need some tool to get
>>>> built/installed.
>>>
>>> It seems that we run into the python install issue periodically.  The
>>> place I know about is when installing Trac.  If we have a requirement
>>> for a python installation tool, then I think we should add it as it will
>>> help others when installing some packages that may not be in the book.
>>>
>>>   -- Bruce
>>
>> Now, I have zeitgeist-0.9.14 installed, totem reinstalled, still more
>> than 20s for the window to appear. As I expected, did not solve my problem.
> 
> Sorry to hear that. I still think its either a network or dbus issue
> based on your previous warnings.
> Have you tried strace?

Interesting. I had the same suspicions. But never thought using strace.
Will try today. Thanks.

>>
>> For this, I needed rdflib-4.1.2, as is well known after the ticket #5022
>> [1].
>>
>> For rdflib-4.1.2, I needed setuptools-3.5.1.
>>
>> This is almost all.
>>
>> Midori needs libzeitgeist as in the book, so, it means not replacing it
>> by zeitgeist.
>>
>> Total of 3 packages, or 5, if we count each module (one for Python2,
>> other for Python3), in rdflib and setuptools.
>>
>> But a better analysis show that after setuptools is installed, it
>> downloads any dependency needed, In this case:
>>
>> isodate-0.5.0 (2)
>> html5lib-1.0b3
>> SPARQLWrapper-1.5.2-py2.7.egg
>> pyparsing-2.0.2.zip (2)
>> six-1.6.1.tar.gz
>>
>> (2) means that it is downloaded twice, one for each python{2,3} module.
>>
>> Total seems to be (if we have all requirements):
>>
>> 5 + 7 = 12 packages.
>>
>> I really don't know what to do. With rdflib and setuptools, we are good
>> to build zeitgeist, but knowing that dependences are pulled during
>> rdflib install. It does not happen with a DESTDIR install, though. So
>> statistics from DESTDIR and real install are very different.
>>
>> One more thing, 8 tests fail in zeitgeist. I read some pages, and what I
>> recall is that one of the errors was similar to what happened when
>> trying to run an application and it crashed (IIRC, it is empathy) and
>> someone had it fixed when updated the system to be governed by systemd.
>>
>> Could it be considered correct including in the book just zeitgeist,
>> rdflib and setuptools?
>>
>> I am still not convinced that we need them.
>>
>> Tomorrow I will be back to updates. And depending on the conclusion in
>> this thread, open two new tickets, or close one and fix gedit and totem
>> to look for zeitgeist elsewhere.
>>
>> []s,
>> Fernando
>>
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/5022
>>
> 
> I don't have setuptools installed.
> According to my notes/script, I only needed isodate and pyparsing (for
> rdflib build).
> Mind you, I only installed the python2 version.

OK. Perhaps I could try with only these. But I am thinking that the best
solution would be setuptools, because we could only mention it as
dependency and it would pull anything else. BTW, when I wrote DESTDIR, I
was think the general idea, for this it is

python setup.py install --root=...

> I'm cannot remember why I decided to install zeitgeist in the first
> place. Might have been something to do with the channels videos, as I do
> remember initially  have issues with these.

Some of the channels need RTMP (Euronews) I do not have nor remember
what it is, so it just pops up an error window.

Now, that I was trying grilo-test-ui-0.2, I discovered (don't kmow how I
did not notice it before) that it takes more than 10s to open the
window. Oerhaps this the offending one.

Jamendo, since LFS-7.5 is segfaulting.

Flicker does not show anything.

I will try to investigate grilo and plugins, hopping it is the source of
the problem.

-- 
[]s,
Fernando
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