On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 04:15:40PM -0400, randd wrote:
> 
> 
> Also, w respect to the modprobe bit - I verified on a Debian & a Fedora 
> system that they too were, in fact, using those two modules.  I was not, 
> however, able to figure out for the life of me where they were being loaded 
> and-or what was causing them to be loaded; it doesn't appear to be happening 
> as a result of udev, or of anything else for that matter.  Again, any ideas 
> or speculation would be welcome... 
> 
 It's possible to force modules to be loaded - see section 7.4.3 of
the LFS book.  No doubt distros have their own individual ways of
achieving this.  I need OSS for realplayer, which is a real PITA,
and on my latest box I ended up compiling it in instead of using a
module - if something is normally loaded, I don't see any real
benefit to making something a module.  YMMV.

> Strange Character
> =================
> In the help file pages (on an index page, generally between a number and a 
> description: eg., 1. Introduction) - and also inside of firefox - I'm seeing 
> a peculiar character I've never seen before.  It's a small square with 4 
> small characters inside it.  It looks something like this (apologies in 
> advance for the ASCII art): 
> 
>   + ----- +
>   | 2   0 |
>   | a   1 |
>   + ----- + 
> 
> I'm not certain what the four characters displayed inside the square are, 
> exactly; one of them does appear to be a 2 though. 
> 
 Probably, whitespace.  Gnome is good at using "correct" whitespace
where most of us would just use a space.  I first came upon this
problem in the gnumeric docs when displayed in yelp.  Turned out to
be a fonts problem.  In my case, adding dejavu (I'm at 2.19, but
it's probably moved on since I last checked) solved this.

 More generally, take a look at gucharmap.  This shows what you
have, and for what you don't have it shows a numeric value in a
square.  Look at the 'common' glyphs, particularly U+2004 to U+200B,
U+2028 to U+202F.

> It doesn't seem to be replacing a character that ought to be there and 
> isn't; the best I can tell, everything that should be there is there.  
> LC_ALL is (and has been) set to "en_US.UTF-8"... Anyone seen this before? 
> 
 [ snip the rest, I don't use gnome, other than a few applications.
Well, that's what I keep telling myself, but in my current builds
(gnome-2.20 for xorg-7.3) my gnome script has in excess of 70
packages, although I might yet drop some of them (I'm in an overdue
refresh of what I build, and trying out a few things I didn't used
to use).  I definitely don't have a "default" browser.

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