That's a direct download to the thing actually. Just enter on it and it should take you to the download ink to the file. SA&G
:> Sara, :> I went to your sight,but couldn't find the pacass. :> PEACE :> John Carvalho :> ----- Original Message ----- :> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :> To: <[email protected]> :> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:54 PM :> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MEMO TO THE LIST :> :> :>> Or you can do what i do and ue a tool called send personally for :>> outlook express. I reviewed it on my podcast at :>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FunFilled/~5/125260871/a_brief_look_at_send_personally_for_OE.mp3 :>> SA&G :>> :> OK Gang, :>> :> :>> :> Richard and David have chastised folks for cross-posting and :>> :> suggested that :>> :> we send separate messages -- although possibly identical -- to :>> :> each list :>> :> separately. However, it occurred to me that some of you may not :>> :> realize a :>> :> convenient way to do this. So, I'm offering two ways to do just :>> :> that: :>> :> :>> :> 1) Open up your text editor and compose the message/question and :>> :> then copy :>> :> the entire contents of that text session ( <CONTROL> + <A> ) :>> :> into the clipboard, then paste the clipboard contents ( :>> :> <CONTROL> + <P> ) into the :>> :> two separate messages - one for each list. :>> :> :>> :> 2) Or you can simply compose an original message for one list, :>> :> then using :>> :> the <CONTROL>+<A> (copy all) and <CONTROL>+<P> commands to copy :>> :> the message :>> :> from one email composition for one list into a second email :>> :> composition for :>> :> the second list. :>> :> :>> :> Actually, I'm using the first method to send this message to both :>> :> the Blind :>> :> Computing and JAWS Users list. :>> :> :>> :> ---------------- :>> :> Bill Gallik :>> :> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> :> - "The keenest sorrow is to recognize ourselves as the sole :>> :> cause of all our :>> :> adversities." :>> :> - Sophocles :>> :> ----- Original Message ----- :>> :> From: "Moderator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :>> :> To: "blind-computing" <[email protected]> :>> :> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:52 AM :>> :> Subject: [Blind-Computing] MEMO TO THE LIST :>> :> :>> :> :>> :> All, :>> :> In the past month the membership to both lists has grown, :>> :> causing the management team :>> :> to take a closer look at general list operation. :>> :> A couple of items have come to the attention of the management :>> :> team and this applies to both the blind-computing, and :>> :> jaws-users lists. Members that are subscribed to both lists, :>> :> will get this twice since it will :>> :> be posted to both :>> :> lists. :>> :> 1. Cross-posting :>> :> Recently, it appears that the number of cross-postings to the :>> :> list has :>> :> increased. :>> :> We need to bring this method of posting to an end. :>> :> Besides the fact that cross-posting is improper e-mail list :>> :> etiquet, it's benefits are out-weighed by the problems it causes. :>> :> Plain and simplly put, it's nothing less than laziness on the :>> :> part of the :>> :> poster. :>> :> This method of posting plays havoc with some peoples message :>> :> rules in their :>> :> e-mail client. :>> :> This practice is annoying, as well as inconsiderate, and :>> :> discourteous to :>> :> others. :>> :> Members should not have to adjust their message rules , to :>> :> accomodate those :>> :> who won't take an extra :>> :> minute or so to post in a proper manner. :>> :> Additionally, it generates unnecessary list traffic, and actually :>> :> serves to :>> :> slow the overall :>> :> performance of the list. :>> :> If you want to post the same question to multiple lists, then it :>> :> should be :>> :> done on an individual :>> :> message basis. :>> :> I currently subscribe to more than 30 lists, and on occasion I :>> :> will post the :>> :> same question to :>> :> several lists, but I do it without cross-posting. :>> :> If you are subscribed to several lists, as I'm sure many are, :>> :> then post your question to the list that is most appropriate for :>> :> it. :>> :> If you don't recieve an answer, then you can :>> :> figure 1 of 2 things generally speaking: :>> :> Either no one on-list has an answer to your question, or the :>> :> person that has :>> :> an answer hasn't read :>> :> the message yet. :>> :> If you don't get an answer on a specialized list such as for :>> :> example jaws-users.com, :>> :> Then post your question to a more generalized list such as :>> :> blind-computing.com. :>> :> There is a list of e-mail lists on the resources page at: :>> :> www.blind-computing.com :>> :> that includes links to other pages that contain additional e-mail :>> :> list :>> :> information. :>> :> Also, just like placing o/t in the subject field doesn't make it :>> :> okay to :>> :> post the message, :>> :> saying I apologize, or sorry for the cross-posting doesn't :>> :> excuse the action. :>> :> Placing this statement in the message says that the poster has :>> :> only one :>> :> consideration, and that is :>> :> themselves. :>> :> Don't perform the action, and you won't have to apologize for it. :>> :> For those in an employment situation, I can understand your :>> :> sense of urgency :>> :> for an answer to a :>> :> problem, :>> :> but you get what you pay for, and if you expect a quick answer to :>> :> your :>> :> question, you should be :>> :> getting tech support on a pay-for basis, where you can have more :>> :> of a say in :>> :> how your request is :>> :> handled. :>> :> Let's remenmber that e-mail lists are comprised of people of all :>> :> computing :>> :> skills, :>> :> and that noone here is getting paid for the assistance they :>> :> offer. If you are not in an employment situation, and your :>> :> questions are aimed at :>> :> personal computing, then, :>> :> there should be less of a sense of urgency. :>> :> Everyone on the list does their best to respond in a timely :>> :> mmanner. So, we all need to be patient. :>> :> Keep in mind, that this doesn't mean one type of user is more :>> :> deserving of :>> :> help than another. :>> :> David and I will work on the appropriate wording for this , and :>> :> it will be :>> :> added to the list :>> :> guidelines, at the earliest possible time. :>> :> :>> :> 2. File Requests. :>> :> Recently, we have had some excellent contributions to the list, :>> :> from within :>> :> the membership. :>> :> And we want to encourage this to continue. :>> :> We will be working on a better system of file distribution, :>> :> so that when menmbers have files they want to share with the :>> :> list, we have a way for members to get the file, or files to the :>> :> management team :>> :> so that we can make them readily available to all list members. :>> :> The reason for this, is thatwhen a member posts to the list, that :>> :> they have :>> :> files to share, :>> :> this dramatically increases list traffic and band width. :>> :> In order to stream the process and make it more efficient, we :>> :> will see what :>> :> we can put in place :>> :> to facilitate this. :>> :> If we can make this happen, then there will be no need to post to :>> :> the list :>> :> asking people to send files privately. :>> :> If a member has a file that may benefit other users, and he or :>> :> she wants to :>> :> send it to another :>> :> member privately, :>> :> then they need to take that transaction completely off-list. :>> :> This will greatly reduce the occurance of people flooding the :>> :> list with :>> :> requests for private e-mail attachments. :>> :> How it works: :>> :> When a member has a file to share with the list membership, :>> :> they need only make it available to the management team. :>> :> At this point, the management team can put the file in an :>> :> accessible location, and then make the :>> :> membership aware of that location, :>> :> with only one post to the list. :>> :> Now, you can see that 1 message is posted, but the file is :>> :> available to all :>> :> members. :>> :> Instant reduction in redundent messages to the list. :>> :> 3. Just a reminder, that we all, management team included, need :>> :> to try and :>> :> keep our subject lines on :>> :> track. :>> :> If David has additional comments he will post them in a seperate :>> :> post. :>> :> :>> :> Richard Justice-list moderator :>> :> David A. Ferrin list owner :>> :> www.blind-computing.com :>> :> www.jaws-users.com :>> :> Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: :>> :> http://www.blind-computing.com :>> :> Address for the list archives: :>> :> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ :>> :> To post to this group, send email to :>> :> [email protected] :>> :> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to :>> :> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> :> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the :>> :> subject or :>> :> body of a blank message to: :>> :> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> :> Use the following form in order to contact the management team :>> :> http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php :>> :> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the :>> :> following :>> :> address: :>> :> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> :> :>> :> :>> :> :>> :> :>> :> Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: :>> :> http://www.blind-computing.com :>> :> Address for the list archives: :>> :> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ :>> :> To post to this group, send email to :>> :> [email protected] :>> :> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to :>> :> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> :> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the :>> :> subject or body of a blank message to: :>> :> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> :> Use the following form in order to contact the management team :>> :> http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php :>> :> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the :>> :> following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> :>> :>> Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: :>> http://www.blind-computing.com :>> Address for the list archives: :>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ :>> To post to this group, send email to :>> [email protected] :>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to :>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the :>> subject or body of a blank message to: :>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team :>> http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php :>> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the :>> following address: :>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> :> :> Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: :> http://www.blind-computing.com :> Address for the list archives: :> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ :> To post to this group, send email to :> [email protected] :> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to :> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the :> subject or body of a blank message to: :> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> Use the following form in order to contact the management team :> http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php :> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the :> following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
