Bob,

My mistake! I meant uninterruptable power supply. My UPS will only 
last about 30 minutes when the electricity power fails. I suppose 
that it will last a bit longer because I don't keep my monitor on.

Sorry for any confusion.

Lennie

At 06:55 PM 9/3/2008, you wrote:
>Lennie,
>
>Where does one acquire an "unlimited power supply "?  I have heard of such
>things as "uninterruptable power supply " (UPS) but I would love to acquire
>an "unlimited power supply ."  Sounds like a real money saver!
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 12:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] External Hard Drive Question
>
>
>Patricia,
>
>I would follow Rick's suggestion. I do use power scripts (surge
>protectors) for not only for computer devices, but also for my stereo
>system. If you can place the script in a convenient place, then it
>won't be hard to use it as a switch for your external hard drive.
>
>BTW, my computer and monitor are plugged into an unlimited power
>supply (UPS) for protection and power failure.
>
>I don't like any devices that does not have a switch and goes into a
>sleep mode. I had an Omega external hard drive that did exactly that
>and I returned it for a Maxtor which has a power on and off switch.
>
>Lennie
>
>At 01:29 PM 9/3/2008, you wrote:
> >I felt of mine and there is no switch, so guess I have to keep it unplugged
> >until I need it.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 12:16 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] External Hard Drive Question
> >
> >
> > > Patricia,
> > >
> > > Each of my three external hard drives have a power on and off switch.
> > >
> > > Lennie
> > >
> > > At 01:11 PM 9/3/2008, you wrote:
> > >>How do you turn it on/off?
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Rick Justice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>To: <[email protected]>
> > >>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:12 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] External Hard Drive Question
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Ginger,
> > >> > I leave my external drives connected to the computer,
> > >> > but I do not leave them turned on.
> > >> > HTH,
> > >> > Richard Q. Justice-website owner
> > >> > www.blind-computing.com
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "Ginger Roe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > To: <[email protected]>
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 1:51 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] External Hard Drive Question
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi, is it ok to leave my external hard drive plugged in all the
>time?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ginger Roe
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Visit my website:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> http://www.withtheblindinmind.com
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lennie
> > >> >> Rinaldi
> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:08 AM
> > >> >> To: [email protected]
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] External Hard Drive Question
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hi Nimer,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> That's not good! I think that a hard drive whether internal or
> > >> >> external should have a longer life than 1-1/2 or 2 years.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> You did not mention the size of your failed Hitachi hard drive. I do
> > >> >> think that the larger hard drives have the tendency to fail sooner
> > >> >> than smaller ones.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> As I have mentioned, my Western Digital internal hard drive was 500
> > >> >> GB. and it failed within two years. I was told that the master file
> > >> >> table which I believe keeps track of all the files on the hard drive
> > >> >> was corrupted. Since I had many, many MP3 files on that old hard
> > >> >> drive, I(I don't remember how many) it was probably too many for the
> > >> >> master file table to keep up with it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I was told that the solution with large single hard drives is to
> > >> >> split the hard drives into two drives. This could be done before any
> > >> >> data is stored on a new hard drive using a function in Window to
> > >> >> split the hard drive (I think it has to do with formatting). If data
> > >> >> is already stored on the hard drive, then you need something like
> > >> >> partition magic to split the hard drive.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The advantage of splitting a hard drive (so I was told) is that it
> > >> >> will create two master file tables which should handles the large
> > >> >> number of files spread over the two areas.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have two external hard drives and one internal hard drive and all
> > >> >> are 500 GB. each. So, the three are split to prevent failure. Each
> > >> >> one has its own drive letter and each is split about 250 GB. each.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I hope that this information is useful for you.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Lennie
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At 06:08 PM 9/1/2008, you wrote:
> > >> >>>Actually, it was an internal, and it was about a year and a half.
> > >> >>>Thanks
> > >> >>>Nimer J
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>Lennie Rinaldi wrote:
> > >> >>> > Hi Nimer,
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > I also have a Hitachi 500 GB internal hard drive. I use this one
> > >> >>> > for
> > >> >>> > all my MP3 music and recordings. So far, that one is working just
> > >> >>> > fine.
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > I had a bad experience with my previous internal hard drive that
> > >> >>> > died
> > >> >>> > on me after 2 years. That one was a Western Digital and also was
> > >> >>> > 500
> > >> >>> > GB.
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > I use the Hitachi external hard drive which is also 500 GB. to
>back
> > >> >>> > up anything that I saved on the internal hard drive. So far, that
> > >> >>> > one
> > >> >>> > has been working fine. Both drives are 5 months old. How old was
> > >> >>> > your
> > >> >>> > Hitachi external hard drive when it died on you?
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > Lennie
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > At 11:55 AM 9/1/2008, you wrote:
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> >> By the way, how do you like hitachi? I just had one die on me.
> > >> >>> >> thanks
> > >> >>> >> Nimer J
> > >> >>> >>
> > >> >>> >> Lennie Rinaldi wrote:
> > >> >>> >>
> > >> >>> >>> Victor,
> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> >>> >>> I think that most new external hard drives come already in NTFS
> > >> >>> >>> format. I recently bought a Hitachi external hard drive and it
> > >> >>> >>> was
> > >> >>> >>> formatted that way.
> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> >>> >>> One of my older  external hard drive which I purchased a couple
> > >> >>> >>> of
> > >> >>> >>> years ago was FAT32 and had to be reformatted to NTFS.
> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> >>> >>> Just thought that you might want to know.
> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> >>> >>> Lennie
> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> >>> >>> At 06:12 AM 9/1/2008, you wrote:
> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> >>> >>>> Hi Patricia,
> > >> >>> >>>>
> > >> >>> >>>> You've got it, that's exactly what it should say, which is
> > >> >>> very uncommon.
> > >> >>> >>>>
> > >> >>> >>>> Any drive I've ever gotten has always been formatted as FAT or
> > >> >>> >>>>
> > >> >>> >> FAT32 so they
> > >> >>> >>
> > >> >>> >>>> will plug into a Windows 98 machine, but it's a nice surprise
> > >> >>> >>>> that
> > >> >> yours
> > >> >>> >>>> isn't.
> > >> >>> >>>>
> > >> >>> >>>> Now all you have to do is sit back and enjoy the drive.
>Smile.
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