Hi Milo. Actually, 40 usd isn’t a laughing matter for lots of people in developed countries either, I certainly don’t have that sort of cash to throw around generally (particularly at the moment when moving house and having lots of practical utility type bills).
That aside though, one thing to remember is that when you buy a game you are investing in the developer as much as in the product itself. It’s one thing if the developer has dropped off the map, isn’t making games anymore and is just raking in cash off their previous work while offering no updates, but frequently while your buying game number one, game number 2 is in development, indeed it’s the very fact that so many people have bought Jason alan’s sadly inaccessible graphical mobile games which means he can offer Entombed for free. So if buying entombed gets us a little closer to entombed ii I’m all for it myself,. Actually I had a very similar situation with tarzan junior, which I bought back in 2006, and became free about a year later, ---- but look at what Philip Bennifall went on to do. All the be best, Dark. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Milos Przic Sent: 28 December 2017 21:23 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. Hey Dark, I get your point completely and I can't say that you are not right as those are the facts. But it is one thing to live in the UK or in the US and another to live in a developed country. The difference is that, for many if not most people in the UK or US, buying a game is like paying for a cup of coffee, while here buying a game is an investment. No problem if a game is 2 or 3 dollars, at least for me, for someone else it also can be a big issue, but if I spent 40 dollars on a game just to see it free after a few monthhs, I hope you can imagine my feelings. I get the technical issues, but the question is, when and how can they conflict with some ethical issues. Best, Miloš ----- Original Message ----- From: dark To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 03:26 AM Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. Hi Milo. I’m afraid I must disagree completely. Lots of people (including me), bought lots of games back in the day that are now free, superliam, judgement day,Bsc titles etc. However if the status had remained paid nobody would’ve been able to get hold of them when they were no longer on sale. The fact is software updates, requirements change and developers cannot always keep their games uptodate with the latest operating system changes. Of course, there are plenty of compatibility fixes and the like that mean people can still play them, (indeed this is one of Jim Kitchin’s greatest contributions to this community, since without him getting a lot of older titles including his to run on windows 7-10, would be far more difficult), it gets harder and harder for developers to keep them up to date. This is why Q9 ended up being sold off to an unscrupulous hack , and why games like the original Klango pirate memnory game are not available anymore. Contrast the situation on’ windows and Ios. Judgement day celibrated it’s tenth anniversary the other day, and there are people who are new to this community who downloaded and played it this year. On the other hand, games like the pappasangre 1 and 2, Solara and soul trapper which are barely 7 years old are now utterly inaccessible thanks to Apple’s closed development system , people’s inability to maintain the games when their life circumstances change, and the fact that the games can no longer be bought. And of course, don’t forget that just because one game from a developer is free, it doesn’t mean that developer drops off the Map. Ian is still producing games now which I will certainly support, and Jason Alan of Entombed is going on to work on a sequel which will likely be bigger, badder, better and also a paid game. As someone who was around with Entombed’s development from the very beginning, was a private alpha tester, contributed ideas and moderated the entombed mailing list, I’m really happy people will be able to go on enjoying the game for years to come. All the best, Dark. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Milos Przic Sent: 27 December 2017 19:40 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. Hi all, sincerely I would not like this, and I will explain why, risking being linched by the community. I baught 3d vilocity and it went free after some time. I baught Entombed and it is also apparently free. I also baught Misissipi and I think anyone can play it legaly. Some time ago, people baught Tarzan Junior, for, Inspector Cyndi series, and some other games. Now is it fair that someone pays and someone else has it for free after some time? For example, I was excited yesterday when I found out that the Inspector Cyndi series was free. But on the other hand, I know that somebody else paid for it and has the same as I do have now. Does the money lose its value just because the time passes? Not sure. Or is it worth waiting because, sooner or later, everything will go free? Since Tom and Jim are no more, the Windows audiogame community is slowly but surely getting Balcanized, as Barack Obama put it today in an interview. Speaking of which, I must remember a time when Charles was saying that I was promoting piracy on the Audissey list. I didn't do that, but the developers themselves do just that by being unfair to those who paid. Best, Miloš ----- Original Message ----- From: Keao Wright To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 02:12 PM Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. So does this mean I get to create an account now to go in to the shops? From: Paul Lemm Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 12:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. Hi,, Just received the below email from the entombed mailing list from Jason alan who made entombed, I still think this is a great audio game and thought I’d share the email/news from Jason with everyone: Hi everyone! Sorry for being absent for so long. I'm essentially a slave to my job, hah. I've had a lot of success over the past few years making casual games for mobile players (unfortunately, these haven't been accessible) but I haven't had a break out hit where I could dedicate some time for other games. I'm currently in the United States away from my development environment in Australia so it's possible I messed this up, but you should be able to log in to your account and have full access if you didn't have it before. If you create a new account, that should be automatically upgraded. I also reset all the scores, so hopefully that is working again too. The server I've been running this on is extremely expensive compared to the ones I use today for my games so I'll eventually migrate it over. Maybe with a new release if I can manage it. Every time I get some spare holiday time, I try to dedicate some time to accessible game development and I have made some cool stuff - sadly, none of it release-worthy yet. For anyone who has had issues purchasing or delay in communication, I apologize. Due to the legacy nature of the game, I try to queue up a lot of fixes at the same time. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/entombedgame. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
