Well said, Dark. On 12/29/17, dark <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Milo. > > Actually, 40 usd isn’t a laughing matter for lots of people in developed > countries either, I certainly don’t have that sort of cash to throw around > generally (particularly at the moment when moving house and having lots of > practical utility type bills). > > That aside though, one thing to remember is that when you buy a game you are > investing in the developer as much as in the product itself. > It’s one thing if the developer has dropped off the map, isn’t making games > anymore and is just raking in cash off their previous work while offering no > updates, but frequently while your buying game number one, game number 2 is > in development, indeed it’s the very fact that so many people have bought > Jason alan’s sadly inaccessible graphical mobile games which means he can > offer Entombed for free. > So if buying entombed gets us a little closer to entombed ii I’m all for it > myself,. > > Actually I had a very similar situation with tarzan junior, which I bought > back in 2006, and became free about a year later, ---- but look at what > Philip Bennifall went on to do. > All the be best, > > Dark. > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Milos Przic > Sent: 28 December 2017 21:23 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. > > > Hey Dark, > I get your point completely and I can't say that you are not right as those > are the facts. But it is one thing to live in the UK or in the US and > another to live in a developed country. The difference is that, for many if > not most people in the UK or US, buying a game is like paying for a cup of > coffee, while here buying a game is an investment. No problem if a game is 2 > or 3 dollars, at least for me, for someone else it also can be a big issue, > but if I spent 40 dollars on a game just to see it free after a few monthhs, > I hope you can imagine my feelings. I get the technical issues, but the > question is, when and how can they conflict with some ethical issues. > Best, > Miloš > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dark > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 03:26 AM > Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. > > Hi Milo. > > I’m afraid I must disagree completely. Lots of people (including me), > bought lots of games back in the day that are now free, superliam, judgement > day,Bsc titles etc. However if the status had remained paid nobody would’ve > been able to get hold of them when they were no longer on sale. > > The fact is software updates, requirements change and developers cannot > always keep their games uptodate with the latest operating system changes. > Of course, there are plenty of compatibility fixes and the like that mean > people can still play them, (indeed this is one of Jim Kitchin’s greatest > contributions to this community, since without him getting a lot of older > titles including his to run on windows 7-10, would be far more difficult), > it gets harder and harder for developers to keep them up to date. > This is why Q9 ended up being sold off to an unscrupulous hack , and why > games like the original Klango pirate memnory game are not available > anymore. > > Contrast the situation on’ windows and Ios. > > Judgement day celibrated it’s tenth anniversary the other day, and there are > people who are new to this community who downloaded and played it this year. > > On the other hand, games like the pappasangre 1 and 2, Solara and soul > trapper which are barely 7 years old are now utterly inaccessible thanks to > Apple’s closed development system , people’s inability to maintain the > games when their life circumstances change, and the fact that the games can > no longer be bought. > > And of course, don’t forget that just because one game from a developer is > free, it doesn’t mean that developer drops off the Map. Ian is still > producing games now which I will certainly support, and Jason Alan of > Entombed is going on to work on a sequel which will likely be bigger, > badder, better and also a paid game. > > As someone who was around with Entombed’s development from the very > beginning, was a private alpha tester, contributed ideas and moderated the > entombed mailing list, I’m really happy people will be able to go on > enjoying the game for years to come. > > All the best, > > Dark. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Milos Przic > Sent: 27 December 2017 19:40 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. > > > Hi all, sincerely I would not like this, and I will explain why, risking > being linched by the community. > I baught 3d vilocity and it went free after some time. I baught Entombed and > it is also apparently free. I also baught Misissipi and I think anyone can > play it legaly. Some time ago, people baught Tarzan Junior, for, Inspector > Cyndi series, and some other games. Now is it fair that someone pays and > someone else has it for free after some time? For example, I was excited > yesterday when I found out that the Inspector Cyndi series was free. But on > the other hand, I know that somebody else paid for it and has the same as I > do have now. Does the money lose its value just because the time passes? Not > sure. Or is it worth waiting because, sooner or later, everything will go > free? Since Tom and Jim are no more, the Windows audiogame community is > slowly but surely getting Balcanized, as Barack Obama put it today in an > interview. Speaking of which, I must remember a time when Charles was saying > that I was promoting piracy on the Audissey list. I didn't do that, but the > developers themselves do just that by being unfair to those who paid. > Best, > Miloš > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keao Wright > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 02:12 PM > Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. > > So does this mean I get to create an account now to go in to the shops? > > From: Paul Lemm > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 12:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [blind-gamers] Entombed is now free for all. > > Hi,, > > Just received the below email from the entombed mailing list from Jason alan > who made entombed, I still think this is a great audio game and thought I’d > share the email/news from Jason with everyone: > > Hi everyone! > > Sorry for being absent for so long. I'm essentially a slave to my job, hah. > I've had a lot of success over the past few years making casual games for > mobile players (unfortunately, these haven't been accessible) but I haven't > had a break out hit where I could dedicate some time for other games. I'm > currently in the United States away from my development environment in > Australia so it's possible I messed this up, but you should be able to log > in to your account and have full access if you didn't have it before. If you > create a new account, that should be automatically upgraded. I also reset > all the scores, so hopefully that is working again too. > > The server I've been running this on is extremely expensive compared to the > ones I use today for my games so I'll eventually migrate it over. Maybe with > a new release if I can manage it. > > Every time I get some spare holiday time, I try to dedicate some time to > accessible game development and I have made some cool stuff - sadly, none of > it release-worthy yet. > > For anyone who has had issues purchasing or delay in communication, I > apologize. Due to the legacy nature of the game, I try to queue up a lot of > fixes at the same time. > > Cheers! > Jason > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired)" > group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/entombedgame. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > >
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