Hello Matt and everyone,
This is another example of what I call the referral rat race.
Peter Donahue
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matthew Chao
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Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 8:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people please
give links?
Hi, Charles. Totally agree. How many times have we followed multiple Google
links, only to find that they weren't what we were looking for. Frankly,
that's truly a waste of time.--Matthew Chao
On 11/10/2023 9:47 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Marta’s message was, in my opinion, offensive. Employment status has nothing
to do with it. We’re not asking for a huge and complete list of links. It
might be a bit overwhelming to some people when they find 6,875 results, most
of which aren’t what you’re looking for. Also, answering a question with the
results asked for is not spoon feeding. It is directly helping. Merely
telling someone to Google it is the lazy way. If you’re too busy to provide a
link, skip it rather than sending an insult. If you’re too buty to answer,
you’re too busy. Manage your time better.
When you think you’re finished, You! Are! Finished!
From: Tyler Wood <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 1:29 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people please
give links?
Ironic - a message containing 2 words that does absolutely nothing to help
anyone in this thread or anyone reading it, but yet we’re complaining about
cluttering up the list asking for links.
I agree that research could be done. Far too many people just want the direct
link to something. I feel like internet searches should be the basic thing
people learn when they browse the internet so they can answer their own
question. On the other side of that, people here are probably used to obscure
websites and don’t realize that this is not the same as an audio game. You
don’t have to know the exact link. Still, though, really, I think doing a quick
search before asking this question would net you the result you seek.
On the other side of that coin, I don’t think pointing fingers at someone’s
employment status or lack thereof was at all necessary or respectful in any way
as it applies to doing a search, laziness, or any of that nonsense. The fact
that it was a long drawn out message complaining about how you work when
grabbing the link would have taken less time, lol. The irony is real on both
sides here and I hope I’m not the only one who sees this for what it is.
Yes, use your search engine of choice. If asked for the link, a polite hey, do
an internet (google, duckduckgo, privacy centric as it may or may not be,
search. It’ll show up is all that’s needed.
My first, last, and only message on this subject. TLDR – we are all humans
behind keyboards and all have difficult days sometimes. No worries, let the
games guide you and enjoy them for what they are.
From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: November 9, 2023 11:08 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people please
give links?
Agree completely!
Haylie
From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marda
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 11:16 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people please
give links?
Yes it is nice when someone is thoughtful enough to provide a link. However, a
lot of people don't have time to compile a comprehensive resource list of
links. Also, some of them, like me, haven't put links into email enough to be
comfortable doing it so I might say something like, "Yes I know this is a PC
game that it is available. Put the title of the game into your search engine
of choice. Personally I don't like google so I use another search engine
(actually a couple) more often than google for a lot of reasons. Some of us
are working and/or on a lot of lists and we don't have time to do all yoru
research for you. Some of you, Mitch for instance, I know you're not employed
so you're home and would have more time to do research on uyour own. When we
give ideas of what to type in in order to help someone research we are
encouraging that person to become more independent rather than expecting others
to simply hand them information and spoon feed it to them. Sure, if you're
friends with someone and want to provide a link, no problem. But if someone
gives you some information,like the mame of a game or the fact that they found
it on google, then you're perfectly able to learn to look it up yourself
especially if you have time. Expecting someone to do it for you when you have
time to do it yourself is lazy and unfair to other people and certainly not
showing independenc eor initiative. It is showing entitlement, expecting
people to do all the work for you. It's one thing if someone is new to tech or
newly blind or is extremely busy or whatever but the point is a lot of blind
people just don't bother to learn to research for themselves and there's no
reason why they can't. The purpose of the lists is yes to share information
but it's not just to expect people to always hand you all the info without
trying to get it yourself as well.
Marda
On 11/9/2023 8:13 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
I also 100% agree, as am so sick of always hearing, "google this", "google
that", and "google the other" all the time.
Simon
----- Original Message -----
From: Mich Verrier <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2023 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people please
give links?
Yes that is why I made this post in hopes that people would pervade links to
these things instead of like you said just telling them to ook them up on
google. So I agree with that. from Mich.
From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Charles
Rivard
Sent: November 9, 2023 10:29 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people please
give links?
My personal opinion is that if someone asks, specifically, for links, and you
know them, you should provide them, rather than merely suggest that the person
look them up on Google. That would be far more helpful, which is the purpose
of the list. After all, there are times when it is still difficult to quickly
and easily find something through a Google search.
When you think you’re finished, You! Are! Finished!
From: Gene Warner <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 7:19 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people please
give links?
Have you tried searching on Google for something like "forza motor sport
pc game"? That's what I always do and it usually finds what I'm looking
for unless the game isn't on the PC.
Gene...
On 11/9/2023 7:47 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi all I have seen people talking about games that are on xbox as well
> as the same games on pc. but they don’t give the places where to get
> these games? Just now I saw some one replying to a question about where
> to get the forza motor sport game for the pc. I think and I am Shure
> others would agree it would be helpful for some one to compile a list of
> resources for games that are on xbox as well as the same games on pc.
> just saying things like yep it is on pc when some one asking about these
> games is not that helpful. It would be nice to have a list. From Mich
> Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
>
>
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