Dear Don,
I found Tom's and Mickey's post well-considered and civilized. Every list
occasionally does a self-review of one sort or another and this is one of
the beauties of how these things work. I'm deeply disappointed in your
reactions. A suggestion such as "Get the hell out" is both unbecoming and
uncalled-for unless the person to whom it was directed has proven to be
malicious in intention. Please!!! listen to your last two responses.
Jay
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques


> Mickey,  if you don't like the list unsubscribe,  just get the hell
out...Don
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mickey Fixsen
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:31 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>
>   All I did was ask an honest question abut a list that purports to be
about how a "blind" person can do all kinds of handyman type jobs. I simply
stated my frustration that some postings are strictly geared toward the
sighted and tell, in no way, how a blind person can do the job. I was not at
all rude or nasty to anyone. I think this is a very fair question and it did
get some honest answers. I don't think I deserve the nasty treatment for
asking an honest question.
>
>   Maybe it's really just a "post anything you want as long as the
moderator agrees with you list" and really isn't about blindness at all. If
so, then I was mistaken.
>
>   At least, all of my postings have been from a blindness perstective.
>
>   -- Mickey
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: David Ferrin
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:39 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>   This is great as we won't be without a research department in your
absence Ray. good of you to leave the list in such capable hands.
>   David Ferrin
>   personal email address
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>   Consciousness is that annoying time between naps.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ray Boyce
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:38 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>   Hi Mickey
>
>   As I do a lot of the research for the Blind Handy Man List and I am
going
>   on Holidays I Appoint You to Stand In while I am away, it will be
>   interesting to see what you can come up with.
>   Remember Blind Techniques I think are your words so please base all your
>   responses along these lines.
>
>   Ray
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Mickey Fixsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: <[email protected]>
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:21 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>   > Thanks to all who replied to this issue.
>   >
>   > As expected, the responses are extremely varied. If nothing else, it
has
>   > been interesting.
>   >
>   > Keep all of the good blind tricks and techniques coming.
>   >
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: Mickey Fixsen
>   > To: Blind Handyman
>   > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:11 AM
>   > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>   >
>   >
>   > Hi all.
>   >
>   > I'm sorry, but I get frustrated when I read many things posted to this
>   > list that are simply a rehash of information available out there that
is
>   > intended for sighted people. The information posted does not include
the
>   > techniques and procedures to get the task done as a blind person.
>   > Shouldn't a rule of posting to this sight require the information
posted
>   > to include the blindness techniques needed to do the Job?
>   >
>   > Granted, some posts do include blindness techniques and they are
greatly
>   > appreciated. I am here, after all, to learn and share blindness
techniques
>   > for doing all sorts of jobs as a blind person. It is of great help and
>   > encouragement to hear how other blind people are doing these jobs. It
is
>   > of little or no help to me to hear how to do jobs by using vision.
There
>   > are plenty of tv shows, books, and the internet to find information
for
>   > sighted people. There is virtually no other place to get information
of
>   > how to do these things as a blind person.
>   >
>   > This is, of course, just one person's opinion. I would like to hear
what
>   > others think.
>   >
>   > Thanks-- Mickey
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