thanks jay
i couldn't have said it better my self
jim
At 06:42 PM 10/18/2006, you wrote:

>Dear Don,
>I found Tom's and Mickey's post well-considered and civilized. Every list
>occasionally does a self-review of one sort or another and this is one of
>the beauties of how these things work. I'm deeply disappointed in your
>reactions. A suggestion such as "Get the hell out" is both unbecoming and
>uncalled-for unless the person to whom it was directed has proven to be
>malicious in intention. Please!!! listen to your last two responses.
>Jay
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>
> > Mickey,  if you don't like the list unsubscribe,  just get the hell
>out...Don
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Mickey Fixsen
> >   To: [email protected]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:31 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
> >
> >
> >   All I did was ask an honest question abut a list that purports to be
>about how a "blind" person can do all kinds of handyman type jobs. I simply
>stated my frustration that some postings are strictly geared toward the
>sighted and tell, in no way, how a blind person can do the job. I was not at
>all rude or nasty to anyone. I think this is a very fair question and it did
>get some honest answers. I don't think I deserve the nasty treatment for
>asking an honest question.
> >
> >   Maybe it's really just a "post anything you want as long as the
>moderator agrees with you list" and really isn't about blindness at all. If
>so, then I was mistaken.
> >
> >   At least, all of my postings have been from a blindness perstective.
> >
> >   -- Mickey
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: David Ferrin
> >   To: [email protected]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:39 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
> >
> >   This is great as we won't be without a research department in your
>absence Ray. good of you to leave the list in such capable hands.
> >   David Ferrin
> >   personal email address
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Consciousness is that annoying time between naps.
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Ray Boyce
> >   To: [email protected]
> >   Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:38 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
> >
> >   Hi Mickey
> >
> >   As I do a lot of the research for the Blind Handy Man List and I am
>going
> >   on Holidays I Appoint You to Stand In while I am away, it will be
> >   interesting to see what you can come up with.
> >   Remember Blind Techniques I think are your words so please base all your
> >   responses along these lines.
> >
> >   Ray
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "Mickey Fixsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   To: <[email protected]>
> >   Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:21 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
> >
> >   > Thanks to all who replied to this issue.
> >   >
> >   > As expected, the responses are extremely varied. If nothing else, it
>has
> >   > been interesting.
> >   >
> >   > Keep all of the good blind tricks and techniques coming.
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > From: Mickey Fixsen
> >   > To: Blind Handyman
> >   > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:11 AM
> >   > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > Hi all.
> >   >
> >   > I'm sorry, but I get frustrated when I read many things posted to this
> >   > list that are simply a rehash of information available out there that
>is
> >   > intended for sighted people. The information posted does not include
>the
> >   > techniques and procedures to get the task done as a blind person.
> >   > Shouldn't a rule of posting to this sight require the information
>posted
> >   > to include the blindness techniques needed to do the Job?
> >   >
> >   > Granted, some posts do include blindness techniques and they are
>greatly
> >   > appreciated. I am here, after all, to learn and share blindness
>techniques
> >   > for doing all sorts of jobs as a blind person. It is of great help and
> >   > encouragement to hear how other blind people are doing these jobs. It
>is
> >   > of little or no help to me to hear how to do jobs by using vision.
>There
> >   > are plenty of tv shows, books, and the internet to find information
>for
> >   > sighted people. There is virtually no other place to get information
>of
> >   > how to do these things as a blind person.
> >   >
> >   > This is, of course, just one person's opinion. I would like to hear
>what
> >   > others think.
> >   >
> >   > Thanks-- Mickey
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