a forstner bit is a large hunk of steel.
it is almost a complete circle with cutting teeth around the bottom 
outside edge.
then  crossing from the outside to the center point there are 2 
straight cutting edges that take out the wood in the middle.
they make a very clean hole.
jim
At 10:26 AM 5/26/2008, you wrote:

>what is this item?
>Please describe.
>
>On Sun, 25 May 2008, cheetah wrote:
>
> > yep a forstner bit will do the job nicely.
> > alls he needs is about an inch and a half.
> > i have a 3 inch forstner bit so they get quite large.
> > jim
> > At 07:52 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >> Another option might be forstner bits. I don't know how big those bits go.
> >>
> >> earlier, Paul Franklin, wrote:
> >>
> >>> Somewhere in the distant past, probably at Sears, I bought a nest of
> >>> deep whole saws for about $12.00. They would Easley cut a whole
> >>> through 2 inch stock. They were definitely not of top quality and
> >>> because of their extra depth they got out of round easily. They got
> >>> a lot of use and didn't last all that long. They were a handy tool
> >>> to have in my shop and I have looked for another set with out
> >>> success, for the last couple of years.
> >>>
> >>> Paul Franklin
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Dale Leavens
> >>> To:
> >> 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:00 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting a circular hole
> >>>
> >>> A fly cutter is a drill bit set into a thicker mandrill which is to
> >>> be mounted into the chuck of a drill press. There is a bar which
> >>> runs through a square hole in that mandrill laterally which can be
> >>> slid further out from the shaft and tightened into place with a set
> >>> screw. This lateral bar has another rectangular bar extending down
> >>> with a beveled sort of sharpened chisel tip which revolves around
> >>> the bit center as they both turn and which describes a circle the
> >>> radius of the amount of the lateral beam protruding from the
> >>> mandrill.This sharp chisel then is spinning at the radius from the
> >>> center which has been selected by the user and of course the entire
> >>> thing is necessarily unbalanced.
> >>>
> >>> In a drill press it does at least maintain it's position relative to
> >>> the work being cut, on the end of a hand held drill though, just the
> >>> off-center vibration makes it near impossible to keep steady. Once
> >>> it begins biting into wood, and remembering at two points in the
> >>> rotation it is cutting cross grain while at two other points it is
> >>> cutting with the grain, the rotation torque is constantly variable.
> >>> As hard and strong as the steel is, the possibility of any number of
> >>> things failing is very high.
> >>>
> >>> Because of the design too, the depth of the fly cutter is only about
> >>> an inch. They do come in different sizes, the one I have probably
> >>> cuts up to about 4 and a half maybe 5 inches.
> >>>
> >>> My experience is that regardless of how much care I use one or other
> >>> of the set screws fails during the process and usually it is the
> >>> radius which begins expanding. I had such a problem when cutting to
> >>> form a nice arch shaped cutout on the fence I made for my router
> >>> table. My idea was to cut the hole just centered a little below the
> >>> radius of the hole then with the table saw cut away the edges to
> >>> form what would look like a very steady handed ban saw operator had
> >>> formed a fine archway for the dust collection.
> >>>
> >>> From one side it turned out like that, the other side ended up
> >>> having a quarter inch deep curved line about 3/8ths outside the
> >>> circumference of the arc. I hid this from view by making that the
> >>> back side of the fence and covering it with the construction into
> >>> which the dust collection hose gets fitted.I then ordered two sets
> >>> of what should be good quality hole saws.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: John Schwery
> >>> To:
> >> 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 9:10 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting a circular hole
> >>>
> >>> What is a fly cutter and what sizes of holes do they cut?
> >>>
> >>> earlier, Dale Leavens, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Fly cutters in anything other than a drill press which keeps it
> >>>> running true are prone to breaking apart or having bits fly off if
> >>>> they aren't kept running absolutely true. You are warned never to
> >>>> use them outside of a drill press.
> >>>>
> >>>> A broken wrist is only one of a number of serious injuries one
> >> can sustain.
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From:
> >> 
> <mailto:spiro%40netaxs.com><mailto:spiro%40netaxs.com><mailto:spiro%40netaxs.com><mailto:spiro%40netaxs.com>[EMAIL
>  PROTECTED]
> >>>> To:
> >>>
> >> 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:49 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting a circular hole
> >>>>
> >>>> spade bits and fly cutters, (hole cutter for drill press here) are
> >>>> similarly difficult to 360 center and can wrench a wrist if they hit a
> >>>> knot in the wood.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 23 May 2008, Dale Leavens wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> You should never use a hole cutter in anything other than a drill
> >>>> press for reasons of safety however you can safely use a hole saw.
> >>>> These come in a number of sizes, I think my largest is 4 and a half
> >>>> inches. These can be used in a hand power drill. There is a central
> >>>> twist bit which is longer than the peripheral ring with saw teeth.
> >>>> The twist bit guides the rotating saw into and on through the wood.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I suggest that once the bit comes out the far side and before the
> >>>> rotating saw part cuts through that you remove the hole saw and
> >>>> complete the cut from the other side to keep it from tearing the
> >>>> wood as it exits.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can buy individual hole saws or a set. If not readily
> >>>> available where you live I bought my sets from Leevalley.com.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I doubt you will find a spade bit big enough but you could get a
> >>>> large auger bit for a hand brace & bit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: Robert Riddle
> >>>>> To:
> >>>
> >> 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:19 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] cutting a circular hole
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I need to cut a circular hole in one of the boards comprising my
> >>>> picnic table for the umbrella. Everything I've read says to use a
> >>>> circle cutter in a drill press, which I don't have. Are there any
> >>>> other options?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>> John
> >>>
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> >>
> >> John
> >>
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>
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>5/25/2008 6:49 PM

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