A Forstner bit is really more of a boring bit than a drill bit.  It is used 
when you need to make a circular cut in something and need a flat bottom when 
finished.  They are circular in shape and some have a spur in the center that 
is slightly longer than the cutters around the edge.  

If you are going to use European hinges on a cabinet door, you would almost 
have to use a Forstner bit.  

To describe one, they look much like a wheel on an overhead garage door.  They 
have a shaft that goes into the chuck.  At the other end is a circular cutter 
with teeth around the outside.  The teeth aren't like those on a hole saw 
because they actually break up the chips of wood at the same time.  

The rim  is also solid unlike a hole saw.  They make very accurate diameters 
and leave smooth walls and hole bottoms. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 11:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting a circular hole


  what is this item?
  Please describe.

  On Sun, 25 May 2008, cheetah wrote:

  > yep a forstner bit will do the job nicely.
  > alls he needs is about an inch and a half.
  > i have a 3 inch forstner bit so they get quite large.
  > jim
  > At 07:52 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote:
  >
  >> Another option might be forstner bits. I don't know how big those bits go.
  >>
  >> earlier, Paul Franklin, wrote:
  >>
  >>> Somewhere in the distant past, probably at Sears, I bought a nest of
  >>> deep whole saws for about $12.00. They would Easley cut a whole
  >>> through 2 inch stock. They were definitely not of top quality and
  >>> because of their extra depth they got out of round easily. They got
  >>> a lot of use and didn't last all that long. They were a handy tool
  >>> to have in my shop and I have looked for another set with out
  >>> success, for the last couple of years.
  >>>
  >>> Paul Franklin
  >>>
  >>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>> From: Dale Leavens
  >>> To:
  >> 
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:00 AM
  >>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting a circular hole
  >>>
  >>> A fly cutter is a drill bit set into a thicker mandrill which is to
  >>> be mounted into the chuck of a drill press. There is a bar which
  >>> runs through a square hole in that mandrill laterally which can be
  >>> slid further out from the shaft and tightened into place with a set
  >>> screw. This lateral bar has another rectangular bar extending down
  >>> with a beveled sort of sharpened chisel tip which revolves around
  >>> the bit center as they both turn and which describes a circle the
  >>> radius of the amount of the lateral beam protruding from the
  >>> mandrill.This sharp chisel then is spinning at the radius from the
  >>> center which has been selected by the user and of course the entire
  >>> thing is necessarily unbalanced.
  >>>
  >>> In a drill press it does at least maintain it's position relative to
  >>> the work being cut, on the end of a hand held drill though, just the
  >>> off-center vibration makes it near impossible to keep steady. Once
  >>> it begins biting into wood, and remembering at two points in the
  >>> rotation it is cutting cross grain while at two other points it is
  >>> cutting with the grain, the rotation torque is constantly variable.
  >>> As hard and strong as the steel is, the possibility of any number of
  >>> things failing is very high.
  >>>
  >>> Because of the design too, the depth of the fly cutter is only about
  >>> an inch. They do come in different sizes, the one I have probably
  >>> cuts up to about 4 and a half maybe 5 inches.
  >>>
  >>> My experience is that regardless of how much care I use one or other
  >>> of the set screws fails during the process and usually it is the
  >>> radius which begins expanding. I had such a problem when cutting to
  >>> form a nice arch shaped cutout on the fence I made for my router
  >>> table. My idea was to cut the hole just centered a little below the
  >>> radius of the hole then with the table saw cut away the edges to
  >>> form what would look like a very steady handed ban saw operator had
  >>> formed a fine archway for the dust collection.
  >>>
  >>> From one side it turned out like that, the other side ended up
  >>> having a quarter inch deep curved line about 3/8ths outside the
  >>> circumference of the arc. I hid this from view by making that the
  >>> back side of the fence and covering it with the construction into
  >>> which the dust collection hose gets fitted.I then ordered two sets
  >>> of what should be good quality hole saws.
  >>>
  >>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>> From: John Schwery
  >>> To:
  >> 
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  >>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 9:10 AM
  >>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting a circular hole
  >>>
  >>> What is a fly cutter and what sizes of holes do they cut?
  >>>
  >>> earlier, Dale Leavens, wrote:
  >>>
  >>>> Fly cutters in anything other than a drill press which keeps it
  >>>> running true are prone to breaking apart or having bits fly off if
  >>>> they aren't kept running absolutely true. You are warned never to
  >>>> use them outside of a drill press.
  >>>>
  >>>> A broken wrist is only one of a number of serious injuries one
  >> can sustain.
  >>>>
  >>>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>>> From:
  >> 
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  >>>> To:
  >>>
  >> 
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  >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:49 AM
  >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting a circular hole
  >>>>
  >>>> spade bits and fly cutters, (hole cutter for drill press here) are
  >>>> similarly difficult to 360 center and can wrench a wrist if they hit a
  >>>> knot in the wood.
  >>>>
  >>>> On Fri, 23 May 2008, Dale Leavens wrote:
  >>>>
  >>>>> You should never use a hole cutter in anything other than a drill
  >>>> press for reasons of safety however you can safely use a hole saw.
  >>>> These come in a number of sizes, I think my largest is 4 and a half
  >>>> inches. These can be used in a hand power drill. There is a central
  >>>> twist bit which is longer than the peripheral ring with saw teeth.
  >>>> The twist bit guides the rotating saw into and on through the wood.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> I suggest that once the bit comes out the far side and before the
  >>>> rotating saw part cuts through that you remove the hole saw and
  >>>> complete the cut from the other side to keep it from tearing the
  >>>> wood as it exits.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> You can buy individual hole saws or a set. If not readily
  >>>> available where you live I bought my sets from Leevalley.com.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> I doubt you will find a spade bit big enough but you could get a
  >>>> large auger bit for a hand brace & bit.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Hope this helps.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>>>> From: Robert Riddle
  >>>>> To:
  >>>
  >> 
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:19 PM
  >>>>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] cutting a circular hole
  >>>>>
  >>>>>
  >>>>> I need to cut a circular hole in one of the boards comprising my
  >>>> picnic table for the umbrella. Everything I've read says to use a
  >>>> circle cutter in a drill press, which I don't have. Are there any
  >>>> other options?
  >>>>>
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  >>>>>
  >>>>>
  >>>>>
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