re #3:  I am cursed with having an intelligent dog!  I have put up noise makers 
too:  however Buddy 
knows what made the noise, so he checks to see if they are there, and if not, 
well!  you know the 
rest!!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hodges" <tomhod...@fuse.net>
To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:32 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Inventors ahoy!


I Like the third one, that's hilarious.



From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:46 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Inventors ahoy!





I have three possibilities.

1. If you have a 9 volt water level indicator, use it. Use your plate of
food to hold down a sheet of aluminum foil folded so that one side sticks
up. Place the water indicator so that the two leads are very close to the
foil, but not touching. You will have to try it to see if the buzzing sound
is enough to effedt the dog.

2. Using a coil of fine wire, such as a solenoid coil, connected to a 9 volt
battery, you can give a dog a very nice shock when he touches something you
do not want him to touch. This setup makes a shock only when connection is
made and when the connection is broken. It is not dangerious.
With the battery clip connected to one lead of the coild, use the other coil
lead and the unused battery clip lead to be close to each other but not
touching. When the dog makes contact of both leads, he get a shock, but it
is only one quick shock with no current.

3. Many years ago, we had a dog that liked to steal from the table. We took
a throw away tray that some meat came on from the store. We piled up every
pot and pan in the house on it. In the middle of the night we heard a crash.
That dog never stole again.

John
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jewel
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Inventors ahoy!

Tom! I will print these instructions out and carry them with me so I can
show them to someone who
has the requisite skills to put the gizmo together.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Fowle" <fo...@ski.org <mailto:fowle%40ski.org> >
To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Inventors ahoy!

Hi Jewel,
I've noticed recently trained guide dogs I've seen are much more prone to
such
inappropriate behavior than they used to be. I'll not subject you and the
list
to my somewhat prejudiced opinions about why <GRIN>

The device is electrically simple, and I bet you can find the parts
at a radio shack if you have those available.

All you need is a battery, probably 9 volt with connector, a 'normally
closed
switch of the push button type, and the noise maker.

I bet shlock sells a lout alarm type noise maker all in one just
what you need, I'll get my wife to look some time in a couple days and see
if
we can give you a number.

Most push button switches have 3 terminals, the "swinger" and normally
closed
and normally open contacts.

You just wire a loop with the battery, it's negative terminal going
to the negative terminal of the alarm, the positive battery terminal goes
to the "swinger" of the switch, and the "normally closed " contact
of the switch goes to the positive terminal of the alarm.
that means the thing is not screaming till you release the button.
The trick is packaging it the way you like.

You could even make a box with a hinged top arranges so that when the top
has no weight on it, the switch is not pressed, but when the top is pressed
down by more weight it presses the switch nd opens the contact
the contact to the alarm.

If you can build it your self, you're more likely to get what you want
physically than if I for example built you one, but I could do so if nobody
closer offers.

You don't have to solder wires, small "wire nuts' should do the job, just
strip
wires, twist together and maybe add a bit of tape.

Rest is obtaining the box, parts and deciding how to mount stuff.

does this help any?

tom Fowle

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