it's so hard to breath in my attic, (hate to sound whimpy) I'm not looking 
to be bitten.
Maybe going up there in the winter would be a good idea.





On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, Scott Howell wrote:

> I think I have now a total of 12 to 16 inches of insulation, but can't quite 
> recall because I did not measure.  I was so determine to get it down and get 
> out that I forgot to measure, but it for sure is not less than 12 inches and 
> probably a bit more than that.  I purchased R30 insulation unfaced and added 
> that on top of what was there and I have no idea what that stuff was because 
> it probably is the original insulation installed when the house was built.
> I'm pretty certain it has helped this WInter in either case. If I didn't use 
> some of my attic for storage, I would have done the blown-n method for sure.
> Good info to have, thanks.
>
> On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Dave Andrus wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I believe its 8 inches of bat insulation is r30.
>>
>> It does not hurt to have 36 to 40. this would be ganed by blowing in
>> insulation. The company would factor the depth based on how much R factor
>> you ask for.
>>
>> Dave A.
>>
>>
>> Working together, sharing the light of salvation seen through the cross of
>> Jesus
>>
>> Rev. Dave Andrus, Director
>> Lutheran Blind Mission
>> 888 215 2455
>> HTTP://WWW.BLINDMISSION.ORG
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of Spiro
>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:29 PM
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!
>>
>> sorry, how many inches of fiberglass per "R"?
>> So r30 is "?"
>> Congrats on your relocation.
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Bob Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> They suggest R30 in the attic here too but that's to keep the air
>> conditioning in the house during the summer. Thank God there is not enough
>> snow to worry about any longer. Those years in Buffalo still bring bad
>> memories now and then...
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Dave Andrus
>>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:24 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I grew up in northern Wisconsin. We were always told that if you have
>>> icicles it means you do not have enough insulation in the attic. When
>>> the sun melts snow from the top the water runs off the top. If you
>>> have ice dams and icicles this means melt from the underside. This can
>>> only happen from heat coming up from the rooms below.
>>>
>>> Certainly there are a few exceptions to this situation, but I suggest
>>> you find out how much insulation you have. We now live in st. Louis.
>>> Both here and up north they suggest an R30 or above for the attic.
>>>
>>> Dave A.
>>>
>>> Working together, sharing the light of salvation seen through the
>>> cross of Jesus
>>>
>>> Rev. Dave Andrus, Director
>>> Lutheran Blind Mission
>>> 888 215 2455
>>> HTTP://WWW.BLINDMISSION.ORG <HTTP://WWW.BLINDMISSION.ORG>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of john schwery
>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:14 PM
>>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!
>>>
>>> Dan, here is an article from a Burgh paper. My wife is from the Burgh
>>> and gets articles like this.
>>>
>>> text of forwarded message follows:
>>>
>>>> Don't flip, homeowners, just let the water drip Friday, February 19,
>>>> 2010 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
>>>>
>>>> When water is dripping down your walls and pooling on the floor, you
>>>> don't want to hear someone say: "Do nothing."
>>>>
>>>> Yet, that's probably the best advice roofers and insurance agents
>>>> have for the thousands of homeowners affected this week by ice dams.
>>>>
>>>> If you are one of them, your best hope for relief is that
>>>> temperatures go up or down -- soon.
>>>>
>>>> "Every house has tons of icicles hanging from gutters. It's very
>>>> picturesque but it's bad news for homeowners and for us," said David
>>>> Thomas of Thomas & McMenamin, an Upper St. Clair insurance agency.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Thomas, a part owner, has heard from nearly two dozen homeowners
>>>> complaining of interior leaking over the last two weeks. And he's
>>>> expecting a lot more.
>>>>
>>>> As long as temperatures stay around freezing, snow and ice will
>>>> continue to thaw and refreeze on the roof, where ice at the edge
>>>> holds back water behind it. That water works its way through the
>>>> shingles -- even climbing up a pitched roof -- and drips down inside
>>>> the walls, damaging wallboard, trim, insulation and sometimes flooring.
>>>>
>>>> So what can you do? Nothing, except catch or mop up the water you can
>>>> see and maybe poke a hole in the wall or ceiling to drain what you
>>>> can't see.
>>>>
>>>> Sam W. Gregg, 79, of Peters, said that about four days ago, he and
>>>> his wife noticed water dripping down a window in the dining room of
>>>> their 50-year-old home. Then, the same thing happened in their living
>>>> room and two bedrooms.
>>>>
>>>> "Since it was a little warmer today, it's getting heavier," he said
>>>> Thursday. "I'm worried that it will get worse."
>>>>
>>>> The Greggs replace soaked towels on the windowsills every six hours
>>>> or so. They haven't filed a homeowners claim yet but figured they
>>>> should let Mr. Thomas know.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Thomas said most water damage claims will be covered. And since
>>>> large insurance carriers have designated this a catastrophe loss,
>>>> homeowners'
>>>> rates generally won't be affected.
>>>>
>>>> However, that doesn't mean insurance companies will replace your
>>>> roof, or pay to make sure this doesn't happen again. For that, you'll
>>>> have to wait until the ice and snow are gone.
>>>>
>>>> Installing loops of heat tape -- electrical wire or tape that can be
>>>> plugged into an outlet -- will create gaps in the ice at the eaves to
>>>> allow water to run off. An even better solution is to have a roofer
>>>> install an ice and water shield beneath the bottom 3 or 4 feet of
>>>> shingles. This adhesive rubber membrane will prevent water trapped
>>>> behind an ice dam from getting through.
>>>>
>>>> But no one -- roofers included -- should be working up there now.
>>>> Even if you could safely work on an icy, pitched roof, removing snow
>>>> or chipping away ice won't help and might just make it worse.
>>>>
>>>> So for now, experts say, mop up, stay off the roof and pray that
>>>> temperatures drop into the 20s and stay there. As long as it's ice,
>>>> it can't drip into your house.
>>>>
>>>> Then hope temperatures gradually reach the 40s, and that ice in the
>>>> gutters finally melts.
>>>>
>>>> Read more:
>>>> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f
>>>> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f>
>>>> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f
>>>> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f
>>>>> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f>
>>>> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f
>>>> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From Our Neck Of The World, our current weather
>>>> is: Silver Springs, Florida Clear, 42?F Wind:N-010? at 3mph Only a
>>>> fool tests the depth of the water with both feet.
>>>> Anna
>>> text of forwarded message ends:
>>>
>>> John
>>> Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 64?F Wind:SSW-200? at 6mph
>>> Lactomangulation: Manhandling the 'open here'
>>> spout on a milk container so badly that one has to resort to the 'illegal'
>>> side.
>>> Created by Weather Signature v1.31 . http://www.weathersig.com
>>> <http://www.weathersig.com> <http://www.weathersig.com
>>> <http://www.weathersig.com> >
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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