From: Kevin Doucet 
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] advice putting up a fence

Thanks for this advice.

The posts have a flared spade part, which I guess 
is to give the post more traction, or, grip and I 
think this sort of post would need a rather large 
PVC pipe to accommodate it. I do understand your 
rationale with this idea, I just don't know if it 
will work with the particular posts I saw. I am 
still shopping around and might find some posts 
which will work with this, so, I will keep it in mind.

Thanks for this help.
At 09:21 PM 9/1/2010, you wrote:
>You've gotten some very sound advice on this, 
>but I'd like to throw out two additional 
>considerations just because they're things that 
>aren't usually thought of when installing fencing:
>1) You may want to consider using PVC pipe for 
>setting your fence posts. The idea here is that 
>you buy some PVC pipe that will allow the posts 
>to fit inside snugly to moderately loosely and 
>set these PVC pipes into concrete base at no 
>more than a couple of inches above ground level. 
>Then you can use these PVC pipes as inserts to 
>hold the fence posts. By doing this, you can 
>readily take down the fence for those 
>unanticipated situations where you say to 
>yourself, "Self, wish I had a convenient way to 
>take that darn fence down." I suggest PVC 
>because it is naturally slippery and will allow 
>you to easily slip the constructed fence out and 
>then back in after whatever it was that inspired 
>you to be able to take that fence down in the 
>first place. I know this because I did it when I 
>lived in Wheaton, Illinois. The PVC pieces 
>should be long enough to allow the fence posts 
>to drop down as far as necessary with an inch or two of PVC above ground level.
>2) Keep in mind that when you have to do lawn 
>work that grass will happily grow into that 
>fencing. It is incredibly difficult to trim that 
>grass because the weave of the fence likes to 
>eat lawn trimmer strings like Peg Bundy used to 
>love eating Bon-bons. Get yourself some sort of 
>"screen" to run under the fence weave (from post 
>to post) to prevent that darn grass from ever 
>growing up into the fencing in the first place. 
>I suggest several pieces of vinyl siding; a 
>color that will pleasingly match the fence and 
>home colors. You can then lay a strip of the 
>vinyl siding so that the it will be positioned 
>under the fencing and not one blade of grass 
>will weave itself into your fence. I can 
>remember asking my brother-in-law about what he 
>thought about doing this, he thought I was nuts. 
>That is, until he had seen what I had done. I 
>laid the strip of vinyl siding flat on the 
>ground (having used a hole saw to cut a 
>perfectly round hole to slip over the fence 
>posts). He thought it was a great idea once he saw it.
>Holland's Person, Bill
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Flared posts will not work with the PVC idea.  The posts I used had a 
consistent OD (1 7/8" I believe) so the PVC with a 2" ID worked quite well for 
that application.
Holland's Person, Bill
- The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese!

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