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Today's topics: * 6 new messages in 3 topics - digest - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/dee3049a5c7e625f * Fw: are you a SICKU_LARIST ??? - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/3ca14a78fe02f61e ============================================================================== TOPIC: 6 new messages in 3 topics - digest http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/dee3049a5c7e625f ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Sat, Jan 28 2006 11:04 pm From: Abhieshek jain Dear allt, Why are we discussing about hindus and muslims. I think before disscussio we should seee in and around our self. We all know that the minor communities are vote bank of Political parties. Whenever election comes these parties play the minority card and grab as much as vote from these communities.Do we know why it happens? It happens because the people from other communities do not cast their vote fully.Surprisingly most of them are youth from our age group who are educated. Can we motivate our youth community to cast their vote. So that we can sideline these minor vote bank from the hands of political parties. i feel that we should work beyond the community level. and work for indians ,work for india. On 1/23/06, BM_discussion group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BM_discussion > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion > [email protected] > > Today's topics: > > * are u a hindu or a secularist - 3 messages, 3 authors > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/ccc9324561842881 > * The auctioning of India - 1 messages, 1 author > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8fab64179b93adc9 > * ever imagined? - 2 messages, 2 authors > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/5cfcb52826e572f2 > > ============================================================================== > TOPIC: are u a hindu or a secularist > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/ccc9324561842881 > ============================================================================== > > == 1 of 3 == > Date: Sun, Jan 22 2006 12:47 pm > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dear Brother Amit, > > The best way to stop imbalance is by promoting balance. Lets us > transform the society into one that believes in love and harmony, I > know, its not easy, but that is the only way to achieve a happy > nation. > > If you see, there is some mistrust between many religions in India, > let us promote common values in all religions as one common ground > that can be shared and practised by all of us. > > to answer your question, are u a hindu or a secularist ? I would > answer 'neither' . > I sometimes felt that vote-bank politics was being practised, dividing > the people on the basis of religion, caste etc.. > > The solution would be promote Oneness - Humanity Without Barriers. > I am not advocating dormant pacificism - but a gradual progression > towards 'Humanity Without Barriers' > > Kiran > > > > > == 2 of 3 == > Date: Sun, Jan 22 2006 8:22 pm > From: "panda" > > I am a Hndu secularistic atheist. Why? By default or by birth I am a > Hindu Brahmin. Most of the relatives, friends and neighbours are > Hindus. The festivals and other gatherings(socio-cultural events) are > basically having religious tones(in good sense). So all these has given > me an identity. Why I am secular? ( not the pseudo-one) because I do > not think religion is not that much required as far as governance is > concerned. Religion is required for the common mass for spirituality > and setting the parameters of principles. Secularism actually means to > denounce the institutions. It was a very old theory existing in India. > Like CHARWAKS. And a Hindu may be truely secular. Our school of thought > is very rich and open minded and ready to experiment. Now why atheist? > It is also there in our philosophy. A 'bhakta' gets 'mukti' in 12 lives > but a 'shatru' of Bhagawan gets it in 3 lives. Why? Because it's again > really difficult to be an atheist and as man is very weak. I am > attached to Ramakrishna mission and have faith on Shree Ramakrishna and > Vivekananda. They were mortals with flesh and blood. Yes as they > believed in God, I have to think very cautiously and may not throw the > vanishing act. > We are here to work and perform our 'Karma' and 'Dharma which does not > mean religion but 'duty'. It is much more above religion. We have to be > proud with our culture and heritage. We have to regularly treat and > filter our water (life) regularly as dirt always sets in. And 'Vidya > dadati vinayam'. True knowledge makes one sober. The tree which bore > many fruits, vows itself down (nata) > regards > panda > > > > > == 3 of 3 == > Date: Mon, Jan 23 2006 4:43 am > From: "harsha" > > amit, > have you ever thought despite being given so many provisions, > why muslims in india still the most economically backward > section? and also they constitute most illiterates, did you > know that less than 5% of muslim women are litereates. > > i happen to see MLA/MP seats/jobs being reserved for > SC/ST/OBC but not for muslims. they certainly need to be > given enough economical pull to bring into mainstream like > SC/STs. I really don't wonder if tomorrow government > comes with muslim reservation in education and jobs, > since they are as bad as any other backward section > in India, though people deny reservations based on > caste lines. > > Instead of mud slinging, we should be better souls if we > can call ourselves nationalistic and work together for the > betterment of nation. > > as far as your fifth point considered, it takes centuries > for muslims population to overtake hindu population with > muslims still being about 18% of total indian population. > > > > > > ============================================================================== > TOPIC: The auctioning of India > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8fab64179b93adc9 > ============================================================================== > > == 1 of 1 == > Date: Mon, Jan 23 2006 5:44 am > From: "harsha" > > saswant, Just like one inherit his father's business, politicians like > their children to inherit their legacy whether they fit or not for the > job. There could be better people who can manage inherited business > than you could, but as at one time you are telling, where is the > chance? This is not limited to congress alone, probably to any > politician irrespective of party line. > > Believe it or not, being politician is the most competent and toughest > job in India. One has to rise to stand such competition. If some > inherit it and is incomepetent, he will feather out eventually just > like if he is an incompetent businessman. No charisma works. > > > > > > ============================================================================== > TOPIC: ever imagined? > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/5cfcb52826e572f2 > ============================================================================== > > == 1 of 2 == > Date: Mon, Jan 23 2006 5:16 pm > From: Harsha > > What if axis powers had won world war 2? any guess. > > India certainly would be a different state with Subhash Chandra Bose > donning the stage as first prime minister. > > tribute to a great leader on his birth anniversary, > http://library.flawlesslogic.com/bose_1.htm > > > > == 2 of 2 == > Date: Mon, Jan 23 2006 3:17 pm > From: Vinay Khaitan > > Dear Harsha, > > if axis power would have won, the world order would have been much > worse, much much worse. Indian would have been in very bad state than > currenlty it is. > On 23/01/06, Harsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What if axis powers had won world war 2? any guess. > > > > India certainly would be a different state with Subhash Chandra Bose > > donning the stage as first prime minister. > > > > tribute to a great leader on his birth anniversary, > > http://library.flawlesslogic.com/bose_1.htm > > > > > > ============================================================================== > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BM_discussion" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] or visit > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To change the way you get mail from this group, visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/subscribe > > To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ============================================================================== > Google Groups: http://groups.google.com > -- abhieshek ============================================================================== TOPIC: Fw: are you a SICKU_LARIST ??? http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/3ca14a78fe02f61e ============================================================================== == 1 of 2 == Date: Sun, Jan 29 2006 12:30 pm From: Moderator BhartUdayMission Please read the forwarded message.----- REGARDS BHARATIYA YODHAO so once again im here as a villian as i may seem but i cant hide the truth from you & as my memebership in google-bm_discussion is pending for some time now so i had to post it over here. So recently an IMAM in mumbai was caught with hardcore evidence linking him towrds terrorist but it was hrdly an surprise to me and belive me folks you would never wish to go at nagpada in mumbai wer i hav been too again some brin teaser 1-abdul rehman antuley was made the trusty of famous siddhi vinayak temple in mumbai can you expct an hindu to be a trusty of a masjid 2-in kerala MLA,MP & minister take oath in name of allalh & infant jesus can a hindu minister do the same in other state-no 3-in govt funded catholic schools lessons from bible are camaflouged as a lesson as moral studies which i myself studied and started believing otherwise can a muncipality school teach even values of gita 4-in contrast in india Muslim population rose by 10.4% in 1951 to about 14% minimum today while hindus population has come down from 87.2% in 1951 to 81.5% in 2001,at this rate i my coming genertion may become minority 5-do you belive communist re patriotic while they refuse to admit that china was the agressor in 1962 at the end i would conclude that i myself have good relationship with freinds of other religion and i respect believers of other faiths,but these question are not meanigless and i am not a fundamentalist but do shower your comments or hate mils at me i am happy for that regards Amit kumar chatterjee -- "We have only one Passsion' The Rise of a Great Nation." == 2 of 2 == Date: Sun, Jan 29 2006 1:43 pm From: Ankur Gattani why can't we seem to grow up beyond harping with what's wrong with muslims.. and then trying to contradict them by finding faults with hinduism as it is today?? look amit.. we understand and appreciate your concern.. and also the fact taht the issue you're trying to bring to light is a real and genuine one.. but then.... repeating the same thing over and over again.. in different words.. and harping on the problem is not gonna change anything.. and of all things.. why is this confrontational attitude.. rupi.. i know you don't like the harping on the same points.. but in a way you do agree with what amit said.. as truth. though a partial truth only.. in trying to make a complete picture... both of you are essentially taking a comprehensive view of the situation.. so why is the attitude so confrontational??? and amit.. don't pride yourself too much on being so rational.. it seems hubristic at times.. who are you trying to throw your attitude at.. by saying taht we'll send hate mails and that makes you happy... try doing a public sermon.. and you might have a following of mindless masses.. who'll get agitated in seconds with your great statements.. but if you're trying to be mature and seek a solution.. then stop preaching hatred and put your mind on how to sensitively go about handling the issues at hand. rupinder.. i appreciate your mindset about our work being independent of caste/religion discrimination.. but the facts still remain.. and we can't close our eyes to them... so being clear in understanding.. and facing the situation is indeed necessary.. so we can prepare and react appropriately. anyway.. i'm sorry for meddling in between if i've managed to offend anyone... and guys..do we realize that we'd more important issues to address.. and there should be some topics.. which are too big/controversial and should not be discussed for the coming year? chill! anks On 1/29/06, Moderator BhartUdayMission <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please read the forwarded message.----- > > > REGARDS BHARATIYA YODHAO > so once again im here as a villian as i may seem but i cant hide the > truth from you & as my memebership in google-bm_discussion is pending > for some time now so i had to post it over here. > > So recently an IMAM in mumbai was caught with hardcore evidence > linking him towrds terrorist but it was hrdly an surprise to me and > belive me folks you would never wish to go at nagpada in mumbai wer i > hav been too again some brin teaser > > 1-abdul rehman antuley was made the trusty of famous siddhi vinayak > temple in mumbai can you expct an hindu to be a trusty of a masjid > > 2-in kerala MLA,MP & minister take oath in name of allalh & infant > jesus can a hindu minister do the same in other state-no > > 3-in govt funded catholic schools lessons from bible are camaflouged > as a lesson as moral studies which i myself studied and started > believing otherwise can a muncipality school teach even values of gita > > 4-in contrast in india Muslim population rose by 10.4% in 1951 to > about 14% minimum today while hindus population has come down from > 87.2% in 1951 to 81.5% in 2001,at this rate i my coming genertion > may become minority > > 5-do you belive communist re patriotic while they refuse to admit > that china was the agressor in 1962 > > at the end i would conclude that i myself have good relationship with > freinds of other religion and i respect believers of other faiths,but > these question are not meanigless and i am not a fundamentalist but > do shower your comments or hate mils at me i am happy for that > > regards > Amit kumar chatterjee > > > > -- > "We have only one Passsion' > The Rise of a Great Nation." > -- Ankur Gattani IIT Bombay 98692 52842 If your'e not a part of the solution, you're the problem yourself. 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