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BM_discussion@googlegroups.com Today's topics: * Fwd: Why are you still complaning ? - 2 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/32583ac38c27ac97?hl=en * A New Beginning of BM_Delhi on 22nd April,Sunday,10 AM - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/75f33b5f49f837f0?hl=en ============================================================================== TOPIC: Fwd: Why are you still complaning ? http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/32583ac38c27ac97?hl=en ============================================================================== == 1 of 2 == Date: Tues, Apr 17 2007 4:51 am From: kumar because, though the complaint about the problem seems to be a minor one with respect to the ones being shown in the pics it actualy is a big problem. Reasons: 1.Ours is country of 1 billion plus people. each year about a few crores are added to our population. many are actually destitutes. who can hope to be an engineer or a scientist? only those who have a certain minimum economic background. engineering and the sciences are required to strengthen a ountry. they are required not only for giving employment but so as to eradicate the very problems being reflected in those pictures.with the purpose that our country progresses, engineering education had been established in our country more than 50 years ago. even prior to independence there were engineering colleges. That is the nation's aim, to uplift the people, the country. there comes the national interest. if in institutes like NITs such things can go on happenning then what would happen to the country. what type of an education our institutes( premier??!!) are offerring, where lecturers don't go to classes, students don't study but leak papers and then sell them even. These are the problems at the national level but an individual at his own personal level doesn't study with the attitude that he would become an engineer, innovator to help the country, the poor etc.etc. what our political leaders are doing is very incorrect? we are not going the way we should. is it necessary that we should imbibe the principle of "Unity in Diversity" in every field, even in engineering colleges,and to such an extent that 50% of the students should be from the home state and each state should have its own share. Are the authorities making any studies whether the REC/ NIT system is really required? does it fulfill our national interests? is this system doing any good for engineering education? why not have any other system for our engineering colleges ? are the authorities doing enough to improve the educatioanal environment of the institutes? 2. At an individual level, a person would think about studying engineering /sciences and that too in a competitive environment to, a) Get a job so that he can think of living decently, b) Think of higher studies because he is interested in the subject and his interests are not diminshed yet, and also may be to be recognized for his works in the field. so that generations to come read his name in the books. c) A person may also become very highly affluent if he invents something and then patents. And then he could help the people of his country in a better way than an ordinary citizen could. But that can never be the sole reason. that could only be "by-product" like benefit. A person would think of such things only if he is enthusiastic. but can there be any enthusiasm in such an environment??? 3. Many of the problems associated with NIT Silchar are partly due to the locality, the place. whether , i acknowledge this thing or not, it is a factor. how can we say that it is not when local students can leak papers and bag accolades, be counted as toppers, avail of the various scholarship schemes and fellowship programmes. when NIT Silchar is getting more funds, when it can offer more scope to its students, more than any other college in the region baring IIT Guwahati only, and the locals are doing such and such things, it means that it is not only me who is sufferring.it means that it may happen to anybody else who is a non-local. if some relatives would come to the institute he too would suffer. This institute ,which is supposedly a reputed institute,is actually a "job-manufacturing industry" using which the locals can get jobs, go for higher studies and uplift their Barak Valley while those from Brahmaputra Valley study and get nothing. But this is true of many other institutes. as your enquiries might have proven by now that it si happenning in MNNIT and AEC too along with may be some other institutes.There are problems which have not been addressed here. 4. Realities of the educational environment of India and its general environment is such, i wanted to bring forth. when so many teams are coming. nobody is complaining, nobody is bothered about the most important problems related to the students' life there. In NITs, not only in NITS, students are preoccupied with ragging, making groups, so that they can have "group freshers and group farewell parties in hotels". so that they can get close to the girls, do something nasty but yes not look into the fact that ragging is detrimental to the whole environment of these institutes. the ppl there are not complaining anything on these issues. because seniors can destry their juniors studies because they are seniors i thought it was something i should complain about. why i am complaining is due to a mixture of reason1, 2 , 3 and 4. Most important reason is 2 because i wished to pursue further studies but that dream has been smashed by this institute.Reason 3 too is a big reason. and then come reason 1 and 4. My personal interests were there. why i could not create a good result was due to this institute and its systems. these things had been going on for many years and would have continued forever. i want that not only these activities stop but i think you should rethink about newer systems. Four years went but i hardly learnt anything there. Not only the malpractices, the hostels there too don't have any study environment. i had presumed myself to have joined a good institute but the reality was different.I am complaining because my studies have been wasted, and not because of myself, but because of the institute. i have lost everything there. The suffering was not small. i still think of studying B.Tech from the very beginning and definitely in NITS. yes, that is not that great a sufferring as compared to poverty and hunger as depicted in the pictures, may be, but in certain other ways those are greater sufferrings. where students and teachers do certain things very dirty but those things are not looked into. It was not one days sufferring. it was a sufferring of four long years. i want to change the system but may be i can't have any say in that. No person can be such a patriot, a chauvinist that he would do everything only for the nation's sake. personal interests have to be there.i too am no diffrent. whatever be the reasons, i did correct thing. now may be things would change and at least i would not suffer in the way i did. Because students there are having dual faces. they run messes and in the final year that is the most imortant thing. because they could make quite a handsome amount. they play elections.they rag and go to places i should not be mentioning in this mail. Thy do these things and yet they are toppers, bag laurels. what is this? if i didn't complain, such ppl would have been doing such things for decades to come. And that would surely, not have helped in solving the problems depicted by the pictures.But i informed and may be that might have turned out to be true that these re happenning in other colleges too. i complained this because everything is related. What ppl think can't be true i the real truth.So that you may rethink about all the policies, about the whole system. On Apr 16, 7:02 pm, "Abhijit K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > ATT00106.jpg > 50KViewDownload > > ATT00103.jpg > 61KViewDownload > > ATT00076.jpg > 25KViewDownload > > ATT00094.jpg > 50KViewDownload > > ATT00082.jpg > 26KViewDownload > > ATT00085.jpg > 45KViewDownload > > ATT00088.jpg > 51KViewDownload > > ATT00100.jpg > 54KViewDownload > > ATT00079.jpg > 10KViewDownload > > ATT00091.jpg > 45KViewDownload > > ATT00097.jpg > 49KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - == 2 of 2 == Date: Tues, Apr 17 2007 11:51 am From: kumar because, though the complaint about the problem seems to be a minor one with respect to the ones being shown in the pics it actualy is a big problem. Reasons: 1.Ours is country of 1 billion plus people. each year about a few crores are added to our population. many are actually destitutes. who can hope to be an engineer or a scientist? only those who have a certain minimum economic background. engineering and the sciences are required to strengthen a ountry. they are required not only for giving employment but so as to eradicate the very problems being reflected in those pictures.with the purpose that our country progresses, engineering education had been established in our country more than 50 years ago. even prior to independence there were engineering colleges. That is the nation's aim, to uplift the people, the country. there comes the national interest. if in institutes like NITs such things can go on happenning then what would happen to the country. what type of an education our institutes( premier??!!) are offerring, where lecturers don't go to classes, students don't study but leak papers and then sell them even. These are the problems at the national level but an individual at his own personal level doesn't study with the attitude that he would become an engineer, innovator to help the country, the poor etc.etc. what our political leaders are doing is very incorrect? we are not going the way we should. is it necessary that we should imbibe the principle of "Unity in Diversity" in every field, even in engineering colleges,and to such an extent that 50% of the students should be from the home state and each state should have its own share. Are the authorities making any studies whether the REC/ NIT system is really required? does it fulfill our national interests? is this system doing any good for engineering education? why not have any other system for our engineering colleges ? are the authorities doing enough to improve the educatioanal environment of the institutes? 2. At an individual level, a person would think about studying engineering /sciences and that too in a competitive environment to, a) Get a job so that he can think of living decently, b) Think of higher studies because he is interested in the subject and his interests are not diminshed yet, and also may be to be recognized for his works in the field. so that generations to come read his name in the books. c) A person may also become very highly affluent if he invents something and then patents. And then he could help the people of his country in a better way than an ordinary citizen could. But that can never be the sole reason. that could only be "by-product" like benefit. A person would think of such things only if he is enthusiastic. but can there be any enthusiasm in such an environment??? 3. Many of the problems associated with NIT Silchar are partly due to the locality, the place. whether , i acknowledge this thing or not, it is a factor. how can we say that it is not when local students can leak papers and bag accolades, be counted as toppers, avail of the various scholarship schemes and fellowship programmes. when NIT Silchar is getting more funds, when it can offer more scope to its students, more than any other college in the region baring IIT Guwahati only, and the locals are doing such and such things, it means that it is not only me who is sufferring.it means that it may happen to anybody else who is a non-local. if some relatives would come to the institute he too would suffer. This institute ,which is supposedly a reputed institute,is actually a "job-manufacturing industry" using which the locals can get jobs, go for higher studies and uplift their Barak Valley while those from Brahmaputra Valley study and get nothing. But this is true of many other institutes. as your enquiries might have proven by now that it si happenning in MNNIT and AEC too along with may be some other institutes.There are problems which have not been addressed here. 4. Realities of the educational environment of India and its general environment is such, i wanted to bring forth. when so many teams are coming. nobody is complaining, nobody is bothered about the most important problems related to the students' life there. In NITs, not only in NITS, students are preoccupied with ragging, making groups, so that they can have "group freshers and group farewell parties in hotels". so that they can get close to the girls, do something nasty but yes not look into the fact that ragging is detrimental to the whole environment of these institutes. the ppl there are not complaining anything on these issues. because seniors can destry their juniors studies because they are seniors i thought it was something i should complain about. why i am complaining is due to a mixture of reason1, 2 , 3 and 4. Most important reason is 2 because i wished to pursue further studies but that dream has been smashed by this institute.Reason 3 too is a big reason. and then come reason 1 and 4. My personal interests were there. why i could not create a good result was due to this institute and its systems. these things had been going on for many years and would have continued forever. i want that not only these activities stop but i think you should rethink about newer systems. Four years went but i hardly learnt anything there. Not only the malpractices, the hostels there too don't have any study environment. i had presumed myself to have joined a good institute but the reality was different.I am complaining because my studies have been wasted, and not because of myself, but because of the institute. i have lost everything there. The suffering was not small. i still think of studying B.Tech from the very beginning and definitely in NITS. yes, that is not that great a sufferring as compared to poverty and hunger as depicted in the pictures, may be, but in certain other ways those are greater sufferrings. where students and teachers do certain things very dirty but those things are not looked into. It was not one days sufferring. it was a sufferring of four long years. i want to change the system but may be i can't have any say in that. No person can be such a patriot, a chauvinist that he would do everything only for the nation's sake. personal interests have to be there.i too am no diffrent. whatever be the reasons, i did correct thing. now may be things would change and at least i would not suffer in the way i did. Because students there are having dual faces. they run messes and in the final year that is the most imortant thing. because they could make quite a handsome amount. they play elections.they rag and go to places i should not be mentioning in this mail. Thy do these things and yet they are toppers, bag laurels. what is this? if i didn't complain, such ppl would have been doing such things for decades to come. And that would surely, not have helped in solving the problems depicted by the pictures.But i informed and may be that might have turned out to be true that these re happenning in other colleges too. i complained this because everything is related. What ppl think can't be true i the real truth.So that you may rethink about all the policies, about the whole system. On Apr 16, 7:02 pm, "Abhijit K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > ATT00106.jpg > 50KViewDownload > > ATT00103.jpg > 61KViewDownload > > ATT00076.jpg > 25KViewDownload > > ATT00094.jpg > 50KViewDownload > > ATT00082.jpg > 26KViewDownload > > ATT00085.jpg > 45KViewDownload > > ATT00088.jpg > 51KViewDownload > > ATT00100.jpg > 54KViewDownload > > ATT00079.jpg > 10KViewDownload > > ATT00091.jpg > 45KViewDownload > > ATT00097.jpg > 49KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - ============================================================================== TOPIC: A New Beginning of BM_Delhi on 22nd April,Sunday,10 AM http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/75f33b5f49f837f0?hl=en ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Apr 18 2007 4:54 am From: Krishanu Bhattacharjee Dear Friends, As all of the BM members of Delhi by, our Heart,Mind, Body and Soul, wanted to do something great as a part of the mission for Delhi and NCR, the time has arrived. We started our journey in end of 2005, grown mature from infants with our passion for the mission and formed a well bonded core team of some strong members in Delhi. Other members and supporters were passionate but coudnt give their time due to many constraints.Now the time has arrived to prove ourselves as regular activists rather than only parttime passionate and keyboard actvists.Our Awaaz program in Delhi was going on but was not regular. Now the time has arrived to be regular. After this MCD Election in Delhi, there is one year left for Delhi Assembly Elections and same time is left to make the citizens of Delhi aware about their rights and duties. So From this Sunday,22nd April, 2007 we are starting our program for BM Delhi, Awaaz-Concerns of Common People. Our Program will be a regular feature in weekends and holidays and public places and will be in 5 phases: 1. Documentary Shoots and Presentations on Delhi Issues 2. RTI Awareness Campaigns and RTI Workshops 3. Citizenship Movement to make citizens of NCR aware about their rights and duties. 4. Networking with other Social Organaizations in Delhi for developmental works. 5. Protesting Human Rights Violation anywhere in India along with citizens of Delhi. So our 1st Episode is on 22nd April, Sunday, 2007, 10 AM. at NITHARI - CHILDREN'S NIGHTMARE. Our Program: 1. Assemble at Sarai Kaley Khan ISBT at 10 AM on 22nd April,Sunday 2. Form the team and move to Nithari. 3. Meet Affected Families and interact with them and shoot their present condition on camera 4. RTI awareness campaign and filling RTI applications on behalf of Citizens of Nithari. 5. Our Team meeting for next plan of Action. Nithari is in UP not in Delhi .But Delhities, be aware.Same thing may happen in your locality. So, Jaago aur Awaaz Uthao. Forward this mail to all ur Contacts. 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