The BMW UUC Digest Volume 1 : Issue 50 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? M5 850ci M-Roadster for sale Re: M5 850ci M-Roadster for sale Re: M5 850ci M-Roadster for sale Re: intermittent shimmy (the last word) technology Re: technology Re: Help with Ebay purchase Re: Help with Ebay purchase Re: Help with Ebay purchase Re: Help with Ebay purchase Re: does the US get BMW BFD ? Re: Help with Ebay purchase Re: runout
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 01:34:45 -0500 From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin, Responses in line. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Brian, > >"True, the energy content of 100% ethanol is about 2/3 that of the same >volume of gasoline" > >No it's about 1/2. > > Chevron, for one, says different. http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/oxy-fuel/enrgycon.shtml According to the above link a typical conventional gasoline blend contains approximately 115,000 btu/gal while ethanol contains approximately 76,000 btu/gal. According to my math that's 66%. >"An alcohol-burning race engine can make considerably *more* power than a >comparable gasoline-burning engine." >Not the same setup's on these engines, for the same engines running the >same compression the gas engine will produce more specific power. > > I never claimed that ethanol would make more power if you simply put it into a gasoline engine. The statements I was responding to were as follows: Chet said: An engine dedicated to straight ethanol can make as much power and the same MPG as a gas motor. To which (I believe) you replied: Wow, you gotta show me that one... it just isn't true. In context, my statement was that *an engine dedicated to straight ethanol* will make more power than a comparable gasoline engine. I guess "comparable" is open to interpretation but yes, an engine optimized to run alcohol would include increased compression, among other modifications. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:05:32 -0800 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: M5 850ci M-Roadster for sale Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Group, May as well kill three birds (three postings) with one stone. I'm getting married on the 17th of January. Subsequently, I have to pay for said-wedding and the only way to do so is to sell three of my BMW's. It should go without saying that this isn't my first, best option, but it is practical (and painful). I've created websites for each car and correspondingly you will find full descriptions as well as dozens of pictures. 1998 M Roadster ($24,500): http://www.inlacal.com/mroadster 1991 M5 ($11,999): http://www.inlacal.com/m5 1993 850ci ($17,999): http://www.inlacal.com/850ci All three of these are located at my home in Los Angeles. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 06:01:37 -0800 From: Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M5 850ci M-Roadster for sale Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Marino > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [UUC] M5 850ci M-Roadster for sale > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Group, > > May as well kill three birds (three postings) with one stone. I'm > getting married on the 17th of January. > > Subsequently, I have to pay for said-wedding and the only way to do so > is to sell three of my BMW's. It should go without saying that this > isn't my first, best option, but it is practical (and painful). I've > created websites for each car and correspondingly you will find full > descriptions as well as dozens of pictures. > > 1998 M Roadster ($24,500): http://www.inlacal.com/mroadster > 1991 M5 ($11,999): http://www.inlacal.com/m5 > 1993 850ci ($17,999): http://www.inlacal.com/850ci > > All three of these are located at my home in Los Angeles. If you have > any questions, don't hesitate to ask. > > Chris > Wow dude! You must really be in love. Don't worry. Don't think of it as losing three Bimmers, but as gaining a whole new set of in-laws. (Plus the wife, of course.) :) There will always be more cars. Brad Houser Married for 19 years and still not missing the Euro Delivery Mars Red VW Rabbit Convertible I had in '85. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:27:23 -0800 From: "JS Nord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M5 850ci M-Roadster for sale Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Must be a helluva wedding given that budget... :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: [UUC] M5 850ci M-Roadster for s > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Group, > > May as well kill three birds (three postings) with one stone. I'm > getting married on the 17th of January. > > Subsequently, I have to pay for said-wedding and the only way to do so > is to sell three of my BMW's. It should go without saying that this > isn't my first, best option, but it is practical (and painful). I've > created websites for each car and correspondingly you will find full > descriptions as well as dozens of pictures. > > 1998 M Roadster ($24,500): http://www.inlacal.com/mroadster > 1991 M5 ($11,999): http://www.inlacal.com/m5 > 1993 850ci ($17,999): http://www.inlacal.com/850ci > > All three of these are located at my home in Los Angeles. If you have > any questions, don't hesitate to ask. > > Chris > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:12:55 -0800 From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: intermittent shimmy (the last word) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> These will hopefully be the last word in this topic; if nothing else, it adds to the pool of experience I guess. At 5:12 PM -0500 12/8/03, Gary Derian wrote: >Check with Bridgestone to be sure. I've not seen both a balance dot and a >force variation dot on the tire. Matching balance is not critical, matching >runout is. That yellow dot is probably the force variation mark which >locates the high point of the first harmonic of the radial force variation. >Align that mark with the low spot of the rim runout. Though by no means absolute, most tire makers seem to use yellow markings to denote weight and red to denote force. That's what I could determine from 'net research anyway. >The dots do apply to both sides since the tire is measured as a whole. I see. As for my best laid plan... In lieu of tire replacement, the shop mgr. and I decided to give it one last try with the Hunter 9700 balancer since he is friendly with the folks at another local shop that has such a machine. I can't say whether it truly lives up to the hype that Hunter plays up on its dedicated website (www.gsp9700.com), but after watching it in action, it does seem to be a very slick tool, if not cost effective for most tire shops. Even these guys admitted that theirs is rarely used. After a battery of tests, it appears that nothing is amiss in terms of wheel runout (surprising considering the road craters I've encountered), or tire force. The only measurement that is possibly amiss is the runout measurement for one of the tires, which the machine deemed 'marginal.' The tires remained in their original index, and the new weights were placed as directed by the machine. What 'marginal' means in objective terms I don't know, or whether I should be concerned about that tire, but it does plant a seed of doubt. However, in subjective terms, the balance is the best it has been with these tires, and the vibration has been greatly reduced. If they were balanced like this to start, I would have thought the road feel was entirely acceptable for cars of BMW's nature, and would have never complained or felt anything was amiss. At this point, I'm just ready to put it to rest. Herman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:52:18 -0500 From: "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "donna seeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: technology Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes Donna, that is what I think about the refinements of the newer cars since my 2250 pound 1969 BMW 1602 was built. Always keep in mind that you CANNOT compete with technology. If that were the case, we would all still be using carburetors and drum brakes! There are no more than 17 wires in the entire wiring harness in the 1602! Anything more is extra weight...:) Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free From: "donna seeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I just re-read my posts and realized that I could easily have been > > mis-understood. > > Really, if we were all able, wouldn't we rather have the more refined later > > year models of the car instead of the first year model? I think that we would > > all opt for a 98' or 99' model over a 95' anytime. Wouldn't we? > > Ummm....no.... > Some of us equate "refined" with "laden with heavy unnecessary gadgets." > The '95 M3 is as refined a car as I would want - no traction control, no > OBD-II, etc. > > Donna > 88 M3 > 89 325i > ex-95 330is ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:31:36 -0800 From: donna seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: technology Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Who's competing? :) My current salvage-titled E30 on cheap tires hits a good spot on _my_ spectrum between go-kart fun and Camry reliability. Sometimes I'd like heated seats and steering-wheel radio controls (which my 95 didn't have either), but what I don't spend on refinements and insurance, I spend on track time, since skills are much more transportable than technology. But you enjoy your technology... if we all liked the same thing, it would be hard to find our cars in the parking lot. :) Donna On 12/9/03 7:52 AM, "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes Donna, that is what I think about the refinements of the newer cars > since my 2250 pound 1969 BMW 1602 was built. Always keep in mind that you > CANNOT compete with technology. If that were the case, we would all still > be using carburetors and drum brakes! There are no more than 17 wires in > the entire wiring harness in the 1602! Anything more is extra weight...:) > > Kirk A. Gilchrist > > From: "donna seeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> I just re-read my posts and realized that I could easily have been >>> mis-understood. Really, if we were all able, wouldn't we rather have the >>> more refined later year models of the car instead of the first year model? >>> I think that we would all opt for a 98' or 99' model over a 95' anytime. >>> Wouldn't we? >> >> Ummm....no.... >> Some of us equate "refined" with "laden with heavy unnecessary gadgets." >> The '95 M3 is as refined a car as I would want - no traction control, no >> OBD-II, etc. >> >> Donna >> 88 M3 >> 89 325i >> ex-95 330is > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:13:58 -0800 From: "Scott Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help with Ebay purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not sure if your auction allows a PayPal payment or not but the following seems to work for me: I am both a buyer and a seller on Ebay. I have two PayPal accounts. One is a registered account that has my bank account as the primary money source with a credit card as a backup - this is the one I use for receiving payments from buyers. The second is an unregistered account (credit card only) that I use for making purchases as a buyer. This unregistered PayPal account actually makes credit card purchases which invokes all of Visa's / my credit card company's online and general fraud protection. If you use a registered PayPal account any purchases come out of your bank account (which has little or none fraud protection) unless you have no funds and then your credit card is used. Not sure if this would work for you or not. Opinions / comments? Scott silver328i Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 23:35:18 -0500 From: "RAGS 535" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help with Ebay purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phil; You may remember me from 'CCA(I am the one who is the twin to Tex Meltzer from Philly),or from my small used car dealership specializing in BMWs in Philly from 1972 to '98, having occassionally run into you at Manheim.We've also spoken online. A '98 auto accident & head injuries here in S.Fla.semi- retired me here permanently. If you don't get any help from Philly,let me know,and I'll see who's still around for you. Fairless Hills is Bucks County;you just continue up route 95 thru Philly,where I lived and ran my business in the early 80's,before moving back closer to the city. Bob Gilbert BMWCCA# 5217 M535 SIG# 143 '86 535i '86 535i Cartech turbo '87 535ia(just left) _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:44:31 -0600 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help with Ebay purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you read the PayPal "fine print" using your credit card on the unregistered account gets you NOTHING. By signing up you agree not to dispute PayPal charges - if you do then you agree to pay a "fee" equal to the disputed amount. So either way - you are out the money. Think about it - PayPal is not selling (or guaranteeing) anything - they are just making a small fee transferring the money. So no way are they going to be liable if the seller rips you off. They DO now offer "buyer's protection" on some items for an extra fee. PayPal is an easy way to send money to folks your trust - or small amounts to others. There really is NO protection. I would recommend an escrow service. I have used one before on a remote transaction. You send them a cashier's check or other funds, they hold onto to them but tell the seller you have paid. Then when you get the item (car in my case) and inspected it and are satisfied they release the funds. Car a car, they will hold the title for you - so you know you are getting the title. Once you are happy they send the money to the seller and the titel to the buyer. If you back out, they send you back the money and return the title to the seller. I think it was $100 or so when I did this and at the time there was a discount if the car was purchased via eBay. Of course, better still would be a thorough pre-purchase inspection. But if using an escrow service you could even pay a few hundred and have the car hauled down, inspect it, then release the money (or have it hauled back). Dennis 01 M5 silver/black At 08:13 AM 12/09/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Not sure if your auction allows a PayPal payment or not but the following >seems to work for me: > >I am both a buyer and a seller on Ebay. I have two PayPal accounts. One >is a registered account that has my bank account as the primary money >source with a credit card as a backup - this is the one I use for >receiving payments from buyers. The second is an unregistered account >(credit card only) that I use for making purchases as a buyer. This >unregistered PayPal account actually makes credit card purchases which >invokes all of Visa's / my credit card company's online and general fraud >protection. If you use a registered PayPal account any purchases come out >of your bank account (which has little or none fraud protection) unless >you have no funds and then your credit card is used. > >Not sure if this would work for you or not. Opinions / comments? > >Scott >silver328i > >Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 23:35:18 -0500 >From: "RAGS 535" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Help with Ebay purchase >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Phil; > You may remember me from 'CCA(I am the one who is the twin to >Tex Meltzer from Philly),or from my small used car dealership specializing >in BMWs in Philly from 1972 to '98, having occassionally run into you at >Manheim.We've also spoken online. > A '98 auto accident & head injuries here in S.Fla.semi- retired me >here permanently. > If you don't get any help from Philly,let me know,and I'll see >who's still around for you. > > Fairless Hills is Bucks County;you just continue up route 95 thru >Philly,where I lived and ran my business in the early 80's,before moving >back closer to the city. > Bob Gilbert BMWCCA# 5217 > M535 SIG# 143 > > > '86 535i > '86 535i Cartech turbo > '87 535ia(just left) > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet >connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. >https://broadband.msn.com > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:47:01 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Help with Ebay purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This > unregistered PayPal > account actually makes credit card purchases which invokes all of > Visa's / > my credit card company's online and general fraud protection. > Scott > silver328i This is completely wrong and very misleading information. You have NO credit card protection if you use Paypal. Credit card protection features apply between the two parties involved in the credit card transaction. In this case, that would be you and Paypal. If you make a transaction via Paypal and the recipient of the money, from Paypal, rips you off, you're only hope is action through Paypal. Your credit card company won't get involved because the transaction between you and Paypal was totally legitimate and authorized by you. What happens to your money after that is none of the credit card company's concern. Been there, done that, found out the hard way. Brett Anderson KMS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:46:49 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help with Ebay purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I looked at the "BMW 3 Series" they have listed. It shows up in 2 places, same picture, same VIN, with two different bid prices. Surprisingly, it appears to be a '92 325iCA M-Technik model, which is pretty rare. It is kind of disappointing that it has ended up in a dealer lot, instead of going from one enthusiast to another. Good luck Phil, I hope it turns out OK. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:15:45 -0500 >From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Help with Ebay purchase >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <snip> > The dealership is about 20 miles north of Philly, and they have 100% >favorable Ebay feedback. But this is where the story gets strange. >The company has about 123 vehicle auctions listed in their auction >history, current and past 30 days, with only 15 feedback reports. In >addition, they have a rather large instance of cars being sold and >then being resold a few days later, as well as some fairly decent >cars at very low opening bids with no reserve still getting no bids >in a 7-day auction. As an example, on Nov.8 they get 20 bids and sell >a '95 5 series which is pictured as an E38 Seven. The same VIN is up >for auction with the same pictures listed as a 5 again on Nov.19 but >pulled on the 21st for a problem in the listing. The same photos are >listed with a different VIN for sale this time as a '95 7 on Nov.20 >and sells for $9100 on the 27th. These anomalies give me pause and, >as I'll have to drag myself and some other willing body roughly >10-hours round trip to see if what I've bought is worthwhile, I'm >wondering if anyone near Philly or Trenton might be familiar with or >be able to do a drive-by on the ProBest Auto Group, 194 Lincoln >Highway, Fairless Hills, PA 19030. For some interesting reading, >check out their auction listings at: > >http://tinyurl.com/y8f4 <snip> >Thanks, > >-Phil Marx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:23:19 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: does the US get BMW BFD ? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rob, we need proof that this works! I suggest you do some testing for us. Rig up a comples series of mirrors so that you can see the brake lights from the driver's seat. Then go out in stop and go traffic and try different braking techniques, record the results and report back. Don't get distracted now! Of course, if you're in an accident during testing, we'll deny everything. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:38:59 -0500 >From: "Robert Jackowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: does the US get BMW BFD ? >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >My car (3-series) supposedly has this already. >Tail lights become illuminated to the same intensity of brake lights during >heavy braking. >I haven't seen it in action though. >Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:35:49 -0800 (PST) From: Timothy Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help with Ebay purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> IMO, this operation seems to be a step away from a curbstoner. If you have not done so, do not send money, regardless of what the terms are. Set up a time to complete the transaction and inspect the car thoroughly. If anything at all seems odd, walk away. I'm a little jaded from personal experience in regretting that I did not do the same with this dealer group. Just my two cents. Good Luck --- Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I posted this to one smaller list recently so pardon > me if it's old > news to you: > > Over the weekend I became the high bidder ($1900) > for what appears > and is described to be a decent '87 735iA w/153,000 > miles. It's > intended purpose is as a safe sled for my daughter > to drive before > she heads off to college in the fall. The auction > says and the seller > reiterated on the phone that EVERYTHING works on the > car, and that > included my asking about where the heat comes out, > etc, from my > experience with the E23 model over the years. > > The dealership is about 20 miles north of Philly, > and they have 100% > favorable Ebay feedback. But this is where the story > gets strange. > The company has about 123 vehicle auctions listed in > their auction > history, current and past 30 days, with only 15 > feedback reports. In > addition, they have a rather large instance of cars > being sold and > then being resold a few days later, as well as some > fairly decent > cars at very low opening bids with no reserve still > getting no bids > in a 7-day auction. As an example, on Nov.8 they get > 20 bids and sell > a '95 5 series which is pictured as an E38 Seven. > The same VIN is up > for auction with the same pictures listed as a 5 > again on Nov.19 but > pulled on the 21st for a problem in the listing. The > same photos are > listed with a different VIN for sale this time as a > '95 7 on Nov.20 > and sells for $9100 on the 27th. These anomalies > give me pause and, > as I'll have to drag myself and some other willing > body roughly > 10-hours round trip to see if what I've bought is > worthwhile, I'm > wondering if anyone near Philly or Trenton might be > familiar with or > be able to do a drive-by on the ProBest Auto Group, > 194 Lincoln > Highway, Fairless Hills, PA 19030. For some > interesting reading, > check out their auction listings at: > > http://tinyurl.com/y8f4 > > Also, if there's someone in, say, the DC area > interested and willing > to participate in a road-trip to Philly, I'm in need > of someone to at > least help me get the potential purchase part-way > back to > Charlottesville, VA. Their business hours are > 9am-7pm. > > Admonitions concerning Ebay purchases are welcome, > albeit too late, > and will probably be ignored. I am slightly > concerned this may be > just another Ebay scheme to harness credit card > info, though we have > confirmed the "dealership", though newly located, > actually exists. My > other old BMW "driver" (535is) was purchased on > Ebay about two years > ago (priveate sale) and has given me well-over 40k > of reliable > service at minimal expense and is still running > strong. If it blew-up > today my total cost on a monthly-use basis would ba > around $125/mo. > over the two years and it's dropping every month! > Sure, I wish I was > made of money, but at least I'm driving a BMW! > > Please answer me directly and off-list (unless you > want to share > your replies!) since I'll get your reply much faster > that way as I'm > in Digest mode. > > Thanks, > > -Phil Marx > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:58:37 -0800 (PST) From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: runout Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Gary Derian wrote: > Check with Bridgestone to be sure. I've not seen both a balance > dot and a force variation dot on the tire. Matching balance is not > critical, matching runout is. That yellow dot is probably the > force variation mark which locates the high point of the first > harmonic of the radial force variation. Align that mark with the > low spot of the rim runout. For the benefit of those of us watching, can you define runout in layman's terms? -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
