Meanwhile, if Lynn and Raistmer have finished with their [rr-sim] of the SETI 
message boards, is there any news of the state of the BOINC code?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Haselgrove" <[email protected]>
To: "David Anderson" <[email protected]>; "Eric J Korpela" 
<[email protected]>
Cc: "BOINC Developers Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: [boinc_dev] Current status of CreditNew?


> This is really addressed to the whole BOINC development team, but I suppose 
> to David in particular.
> 
> I wonder if it would be possible for you to post, hopefully in the 
> not-too-distant future, a summary of where we're up to with the whole 
> 'CreditNew' bundle (which of course includes important functional code like 
> per-app quotas and DCF, as well as the credit stuff).
> 
> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SoftwareDevelopment still has it as a 
> "proposal"
> We know that a publicly announced Beta test started on the SETI Beta site on 
> 1st. April 2010. The only reference to the outcome of this test that I've 
> seen, apart from my own reports, is changeset 21727.
> And it appears, although without announcement, that the whole bundle went 
> live on the Main SETI project from Monday 7 June, when it became apparent 
> that the new NVidia-supplied CUDA Fermi application needed to be added to the 
> installed versions list.
> 
> There's some very wise advice on "Recruiting and retaining volunteers" in the 
> Wiki, and I'm fond of quoting it:
> 
>  "Take an active role in your web site's message boards. Read them 
> frequently, and respond quickly to any negative threads that arise. Make a 
> periodic posting giving 'insider info' on your project."
> 
> In the absence of project staff or developers able and willing to carry out 
> that role, and with the SETI forum moderators otherwise engaged, it falls to 
> ordinary volunteers to attempt to answer the myriad of questions that arise 
> on the message boards - in the first ten days after deployment, I wrote 
> almost 200 posts, almost all technical in nature, some lengthy, and others 
> requiring research and testing on my own computers before I had an answer I 
> felt confident in passing on. That's OK: I'm a volunteer, I knew what I was 
> letting myself in for, and I'm not complaining. It keeps the brain from 
> atrophying.
> 
> But the advice given to other volunteers and the general public on the 
> message boards would be more comprehensive, and more accurate, if there could 
> be some ongoing background briefing from the centre. Even if those were only 
> terse, technical sitreps, volunteers could have a go at expanding them into 
> more generally accessible language for the wider readership.
> 
> I'm raising this now because the unfinished, provisional BOINC code is 
> beginning to spill over and have a detrimental effect on other projects.
> 
> Take CPDN, for example. Around 18 November last year, according to Milo, 
> David asked for the server code at CPDN to be updated "to enable his script 
> to compare the old and new style of credit calculation to run." This turned 
> out to be a larger and more difficult job than anticipated, involving much 
> customisation, but it's been completed now. Obviously, because the requested 
> test included 'CreditNew' issues, Milo didn't take the 'Server Stable' 
> branch, but the trunk revision (as would other projects needing support for 
> recent developments in GPU and multithreading technology).
> 
> According to the latest information in my possession, the Main CPDN project 
> is currently at Changeset 21675 - and it shows. Even experienced moderators 
> (and CPDN has some of the best in the business, with in-depth project 
> knowledge even predating the conversion to BOINC) cannot explain "(reached 
> daily quota of 3 tasks)" messages, when no tasks have been downloaded for the 
> host, and day, in question.
> 
> I'd like to think that Milo and other project administrators could find out 
> when it'll be safe, and necessary, to update their prohects again to avoid 
> glitches like this, without having to rely on seond-hand reports from the 
> maelstrom of rumour and speculation that is the SETI message board.
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