You're doing fine insofar as I'm concerned.  I suppose what I am
attempting to do is to understand how others feel.
I have been an off and on Braillenote user since July of 2000, and what
I've learned about the product has always come from the users guide and
the excellent help system.


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Hi Richard, this is precisely what Chapter One in the User Guide
attempts 
to do. If we're not succeeding, then this is good feedback.
Jonathan Mosen
BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
HumanWare

11 Mary Muller Drive
Christchurch New Zealand
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I believe that the problem is that although all of the information is
readily available in the users guide that for some, some basic step by
step how to information is what is needed.
I personally have no problem learning by reading manuals, but for some,
that is not the best way to learn.
Perhaps a text version of the tutorial that simply lays out some of the
basics of Braille noting in a straight forward manner might be helpful
to deaf blind individuals.  It could be placed on the HumanWare web
site, or on the CD that comes with the machine.
In fact, it might facilitate learning for those who are not good audio
learners but are overwhelmed by manuals.
I think the users guide is a great tool for those of us who can easily
take advantage of it, but some folks get  rather  lost in manuals and
need a scaled down approach.


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Hi KC, it is completely unrealistic to expect us to stop producing audio

material because Deaf Blind people can't access it. What it is realistic

to expect is that we will make the same information available by other 
means that are accessible to Deaf Blind people, and this is already 
happening. So I'm at a loss to understand what precisely the problem is.

We have no way of knowing when we ship a product that is all boxed up, 
whether the customer receiving it is Deaf Blind or not. So if the audio 
material isn't useful, it can be ignored. All the same information is in

the User Guide on board the unit.
Jonathan Mosen
BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
HumanWare

11 Mary Muller Drive
Christchurch New Zealand
DDI: +64-3-940-2219
http://www.humanware.com



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Hi Jonathan,

I don't mean to be difficult.  However,  I'm on  a several 
Listserves with folks who are deaf-blind.  More than a few are Bn 
users.  Perhapsyou should be  aware there is a  general sense of 
dismay at the fact   HW  offers a tutorial on CD  rom that is 
audio only.  I mention this,  because you  indicate here that you 
are   mindful of the needs of  consumers who are deaf-blind.
KC

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