At the risk of cintinuing off topic, I feel urged to reply with my perceptions here.

We can be far too literal about what is and what is not acceptable.

This seems obvious--Sighted students are not to bring electronic equipment that could harbor answers to tests. If there can be a way to demonstrate to all concerned that the unit in question does not have files or data in it that a blind student can use to cheet, then what is the problem. If someone would want to hook up a display and watch to see that there is no cheeting, than that is a viable alternative.

If we take this argument to its limit, then readers and braille test materials should not be used either because the sighted students do not use them. Rediculous.

It is important to get to the reason why a rule is made for the masses and then seek an acceptable alternative that may or may not include the use of the Braille Note. the answer may also be to use a computer with a screen reader known to the student and a keyboard familiar to the student that the school tech department has presented with no information on it that could put the blind student at an advantage.

Let's be reasonable. Exceptions will always have to be made for us because we are living in a world taylored for sighted people. We will always be different.

For me, personal integrity is all tied up in this. It was important to me not to cheet in any way because I gave my word. If I took a test in advance of the class, it was just as important that I not share questions or answers with class mates. That is all about honesty.

Yes, in my day, I took multiple tests orally with a reader, often the instructor. I typed essay questions on a manual typewriter.

David, I know that you have already put this topic to bed so to speak. But let me say that as you interact with your teachers, you will go far if you can remain objective and help them to find the best solution to your situation and work to resolve the issue without heightened motion on the topic. Self advocacy is an important skill to learn early. Our advice is worth what you are paying for it. We do not know your particular situation.

I will remember to pray for you and that you will come to a reasonable outcome to this situation that is acceptable to all parties.

Joleen

At 05:17 PM 12/4/2006, you wrote:
I believe my sighted nieces used computers for their term papers.

The point is: if computers for testing are banned for the sighted, then they should be banned for us. But if computers are permitted, then they should be permitted for us.

I believe all government tests must be put into braille for the blind, but I could be wrong. I remember I had a braille SAT test in 1969 or 1970.

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One more point. Sighted people usually don't use cell phones or pdas for tests or any kind of schoolwork. They usually use the plain old pencil and pen.
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Mike, you still have the cheating factor as well as the fact that sighted
students are not allowed to use computers, calculators or PDAs for testing.
That being the case, we should not be allowed either.  Case closed.

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