Hi Joleen, I am quite ignorant concerning many of the BrailleNote features and when I try to learn how to use them utilizing the User Guide which is very good, I'm not always successful. Translating or "creating a BRF file" as you stated in your email enclosed, or any other translation process is one of those features that I can't seem to understand. Could you explain the process to me? Thank you in advance. Eugenio ar----- Original Message ----- >From: Joleen Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Braillenote List <[email protected] >Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:06:49 -0800 >Subject: [Braillenote] Braille Music Notation on the BN
>Hi, >I use my BN to create braille music for playing chimes. I put 4 measures >on a line because they fit well within the 32 cells. I number the first >measure of each line so that I can easily find where our director wants us >to start playing next. Sometimes it requires that I hold two chimes in one >hand until I have memorized the music. When I sent my BN in for repairs, I >embossed each hymn on my blazer. I don't remember exactly why now, but I >chose to create a .brf file because the Keyword braille document was >wanting to work on my work in some way. >Our chimes director does not know braille music, or braille for that >matter, but he e-mails me a code for the print music that goes like this: >4/4 Key of C >Notes B5 and C6 >He then notes when I play with the following key: >r 1 = whole rest >r2 = half rest >r3 = dotted half rest >r4 = quarter rest >r8 = eighth rest >For the actual notes, he uses the same numbers for the values and preceeds >them by the alphabetic letter representing the note. >Chime music is easy to write because I only have a few notes and we are >beginners. >Anyway, he says it is easy for him to convert the print music to this >code. I then convert the code to braille music notation. It is a little >tricky to "touch read" the music until I get it memorized. but it works for >me. I strap the BN around my waist while I play and read. >I hope this helps someone. >Joleen > At 10:37 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: >>Dear Eugenio, >>Yes, I did create some of my music files using the BN. You must turn off >>speech and create a .brf file and type the braille music using six-key >>entry. If you are using a QT keyboard, the s d f and j k l keys are used >>to make the six dots. In order to be sure you can import the file to DBT, >>use manual hard returns by pressing the enter key. >>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Manfrini" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:52 PM >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>Hi Terri, >>> I'm very curious to know since I am a musician and composer; you or >>> someone couldn't have created the music you mentioned from the >>> BrailleNote, am I right? If you did that would be fantastic. >>> Eugenio >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:21:20 -0800 >>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>I have heard that this problem occurs with all notetakers, not just the BN. >>>>The reason is the work processors in the notetakers don't generate hard line >>>>returns which can be read by other programs. To get around this, a person >>>>must put the hard returns in manually. >>>>If your file has both music and words in it with a line of words followed by >>>>a line of music, then the file should import into DBT correctly, because >>>>there are manual hard returns in the file. >>>>Also, when you open a file which has both music and words in it like I >>>>described above, be sure to open the file in line format and save it in line >>>>format when you close the file. >>>>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:26 PM >>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>The question you should be asking is this: >>>>>How do files created using Duxbury work on the Braillenote? And, how do >>>>>files created using a Braillenote work when using Duxbury. >>>>>The translator is not the issue. The issue is Keyword. If you create a >>>>>.brf file using Duxbury, you will be able to read it just fine using the >>>>>Braillenote. However, if you create a .brf file using the Braillenote >>>>>and import it into Duxbury, your results can be quite frightening. One >>>>>of my co-workers used the Braillenote to transcribe some music into >>>>>Braille. When she brought it into Duxbury, it was a disaster. She >>>>>described it to me like this: "it was a 20 page word!" no line breaks, >>>>>no indication as to where anything began or ended. >>>>>I am not advocating any note taker over another, but if the primary >>>>>purpose for purchasing a note taker is that you are going to use it to >>>>>create files which can subsequently be embossed using Duxbury you will >>>>>have your work cut out for you. >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FunGuy >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:10 AM >>>>>To: Braillenote List >>>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>Hi Rick: >>>>>Terrific question! Let me start by saying that my bias is toward a >>>>>member of >>>>>the Braille Note family for your school district. There are several good >>>>>reasons which I will list and I will also suggest some questions you >>>>>might >>>>>pose to vendors and others knowledgeable in the field. >>>>>First, at this time, the Braille Note family has the largest installed >>>>>base >>>>>by far! That matters because bug fixes and good support are dependant >>>>>on >>>>>the size of the population a company like this serves. >>>>>Second, I believe you will find that the Braille translator used in the >>>>>Braille Note family is Duxbury. I know that this is not the Translator >>>>>used >>>>>in the PacMate. In fact, this would be a serious concern were I making >>>>>this >>>>>purchase for school children. Why the PacMate uses a different >>>>>translator >>>>>is beyond the scope of this message, but as a pure bases of comparison, >>>>>this >>>>>may be enough of a concern to rule out the PacMate. >>>>>Third, the premise of the PacMate is using commercial software. What >>>>>Freedom Scientific doesn't address well is who will pay for the cost of >>>>>developing the set files(scripts) for the commercial software. Believe >>>>>me, >>>>>that is no small matter so that piece of the argument in favor of the >>>>>PacMate is mute to say the least and disingenuous to say the most. If >>>>>you >>>>>accept this point, I would once again remind you of my first point about >>>>>the >>>>>size of the installed base. >>>>>Fourth, the Braille Note family uses a token system to indicate print >>>>>formatting. As a life time Braille reader, I can tell you that this is >>>>>by >>>>>far the best system for relating to print formatting. >>>>>Now for some questions you might ask to further clarify the issues. >>>>>Rather >>>>>then asking if the files can be transferred (I'm sure they can with all >>>>>3) I'd >>>>>ask how the print format information is conveyed to the Braille reader. >>>>>I >>>>>think you will find that the token system in the Braille Note family is >>>>>the >>>>>best by far. >>>>>Hardware is a big deal! It is also a matter of personal taste. I hope >>>>>you >>>>>are buying units with a Braille display. If so, you might just want to >>>>>ask >>>>>a few of the potential users which display seems most natural and >>>>>comfortable. I would caution you in that regard that a display that is >>>>>refreshed by pressing router buttons in a location where they can easily >>>>>be >>>>>confused with other buttons is a recipe for trouble. It will slow down >>>>>Braille reading particularly in young people. >>>>>Finally, I would look at the history of manufacturers in terms of >>>>>cannibalizing there own products by forcing customers to buy new >>>>>hardware by >>>>>unnecessarily obsoleteing the old hardware. This will hurt your >>>>>district >>>>>in the long run. I trust something here is helpful. >>>>>Alan Holst >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Rick Boggess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] >>>>>Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:54 PM >>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>>I am sorry for the earlier message which I forgot to edit to reflect >>>>>the >>>>>>appropriate product name. The message should have read as follows; >>>>>>I'm looking at notetakers for our school system. I would appreciate >>>>>>hearing >>>>>>from those with experience transferring Word and Duxbury files to and >>>>>from >>>>>>the BrailleNote. Is this possibel? Does formatting remain in tact? >>>>>>Rick Boggess >>>>>>-- >>>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>Version: 7.0.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.4/563 - Release Date: >>>>>12/2/2006 >>>>>>___ >>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>___ >>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>___ >>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>__________ NOD32 1902 (20061205) Information __________ >>>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>>http://www.eset.com >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>__________ NOD32 1902 (20061205) Information __________ >>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>http://www.eset.com >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
