Very well Said.
Less and less these Days braille is being taught.
Fewer and Fewer Children who have really no other alternate method don't know how to read
it!
If a way is possible to simplify it for younger readers I am for it!
I count myself Blessed to be one blind person who knows how to read it!
I love It and would like to see more people using it!
It's a wonderful thing!
I did not like the sound of ueb at first but I am willing to take a look at it and perhaps
even try my hand at it!
Your right braille has not reached it's full evolution it needs to evolve and at the same
time children just learning it and those of us who have all ready learned it need to be
willing to bend!
Braille Literacy Is So Important!
That's My Two Sense Worth On This Matter For Now!
Have A Great Day!
("SO FAITH, HOPE, LOVE REMAIN, THESE THREE; BUT THE GREATEST OF THESE IS
LOVE!")
From Your FRIEND, In OUR LORD And SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST, And OUR BLESSED VIRGIN MOTHER MARY,
Kristen
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To: "Powers, Terry \(NIH/OD/DEAS\) [E]"
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Date sent: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:35:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage
Hi Terry Richard and list:
I can understand where you are coming from Terry; I have been using Braille
for about as long as you have. I happen to have a very different point of
view though and if you are open to it I'd invite you to consider the
following.
Grade 2 Braille as we know it today is hopelessly broken. It has evolved in
some unfortunate ways because well meaning people like Dr. Memeth invented a
means of handling a specific discipline. Thus the codes aren't integrated.
To make things more complex, current grade 2 Braille had no provision for
expressions that are common in today's world like numbers and letters
appearing together. Take the address for one of my web sites
www.1number4u.com
If you are reading that in Braille it's a hopelessly confusing mess because
there's no space between numbers and words pressed together. Also is placed
between letters; something the current Braille code didn't anticipate.
The problem is made more vexing because there are slight differences in
Braille from one English speaking country to another. As the world gets
smaller and smaller through travel and telecommuting this issue becomes more
and more of an unnecessary barrier for the worlds English speaking Braille
users.
I have been a heavy user of refreshable Braille for 25 years and I am
frequently frustrated by translation issues if writing in grade 2 for ink
print or using a machined translated text when unusual character strings are
present. I'm not claiming to be a perfect Braille user, I probably wouldn't
pass the NLS proof readers test without some brushing up. Some of the
errors that happen when I back translate for ink print may well be because
of my own sloppy Braille habits. All that being said though, Braille is
not an end in itself. It's just a way of understanding print. If the new
code provides for a less ambiguous and confusing round trip between Braille
and print and print and Braille I think we more mature users of Braille need
to suffer through the changes in the code for the sake of our younger
Braille using brothers and sisters. If we don't, my opinion is we may well
be the last generation to use Braille. I love the medium too much to see
that happen and I'm sure that is a feeling we both share.
Alan Holst
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From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage
Good one Richard;
An option is fine but a standard, I say no. Why change something, when
there is nothing wrong with it. I have been reading regular braille for
over 40 years! Why change it.
Terry Powers
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From: Richard Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 3:42 PM
To: 'Braillenote List'
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage
Amen!
While, I'm not sure it would be any harder to learn, but if it is
adopted, and children start learning it exclusively, then everything
published up to that point becomes obsolete. I hope it is treated like
Grade 3, it is there for those who wish to use it, but not forced upon
everyone.
Just my opinion, and remember, it is worth every cent you paid for it,
grin.
Richard
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri
Pannett
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:17 AM
To: Brian Lingard; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage
Brian,
It hasn't been adopted in America yet and I hope it never is! I sent an
email to Judy Dixon, president of BANA, and she said UEB hadn't been
adopted
yet and that everybody would be able to vote on its adoption.
I will oppose it to the end. UEB is an awful code very difficult to
learn and I refuse to unlearn everything I know about reading and
writing braille.
Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
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From: "Brian Lingard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:41 AM
Subject: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage
Ottawa Canada
Dear Terri and list:
Like it or lump it, UEB is a fact of life and it may be phased in
for general Braille production in the English-speaking world one
of these days.
Reading it won't be that difficult, if you aren't interested in
all of the font and such indicators, but you will probably want
to write it by composing your original in text and translating it
into UEB.
At least for a while!
Brian
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