I quite agree with you about the features of the bn; I do not use the
radio, hardly use the planner, address list, or recorder, and have not
once
used keysync, but other people do. I disagree, however, that a better
speaker would make a weight difference; the voice sense has stereo
speakers
and is a couple inches smaller all around than a bn mpower or classic, and
a braille display, especially the new style, is not much weight at all.
People always want their devices to do exactly what they need/want them to
do, and because of that I think there is merit in a suggestion made last
year that keysoft be a basic operating system: wordprocessor, planner,
address list, book reader, calculator, utilities, file manager, and that
is
it. You can then buy things like a media player, web browser, email,
database manager, and so on, depending on what you want your unit to do.
That way I would not have to have paid for the games, keysync, or keylist
at all as I never use them.
Have a great day,
Alex
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From: Evelyn Weckerly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Date sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:49:23 -0400
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] braille note new keysoft feature
I recall an educator of the blind saying something which some of
you
on this list are forgetting--mainly, I suppose, because you have
been
good Braille readers for years and it's deeply part of you. That
educator said that the games are invaluable for teaching children
Braille skills and direction concepts, among other things. I
think
it's time you thought about others who may either need or want
the
games. I'm not a gamer, but I have taught English. Games often
help
kids learn important concepts. So I'm glad they are there. You
don't
have to use that feeature. There are a lot of things in the BN I
don't use, but I know others do use them, so I'm not complaining.
I
get the sense that some on this list want this device totally
tailored to their own niche without concern for others. Somebody
this
morning expressed a desire for larger speaker. Have you thought
about
what that could do to the weight. The speaker is certainly
adequate
for voice, and the headphone jack is good. I'm just losing
patience
with some of the knitpicking lately. Please, ladies and
gentlemen,
don't we have better things to do here? Now I know people want to
dream, want to put for wish lists, but let's ask ourselves
whether or
not some feature we do not like may be very valuable to someone
else
and try to view things in a broader way. The radio happens to be
software, as I recall Jonathan Mosen saying when he was with
Humanware. I use mine occassionally and am glad it's there. I
don't
use the planner. Does that mean I should holler about its
presence?
Of course not. I recognize its value to others. Now that is an
example. Beyond email, I don't visit Web sites with my BN. I
use a
full-blown computer--laptop or desktop. I am, however, glad it's
there. Now I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular--just
asking
us all to back off a bit and gain someperspective. These are
great
Braille devices. Mine goes everywhere with me. In fact, I just
bought
a used one as a back-up because I could not resist the price.
I hope you will take my comments intended--definitely not as a
condemnation of anyone here. So let's be a positive community of
users and think out of the box sometimes. If you have read this
far,
I warmly thank you all, and please forgive this something of a
exasperated rant.
Cordially,
Evelyn
Hi,
At 12:00 AM 9/25/2008, you wrote:
Hi all,
I agree on the games, but love the radio. You can get the
stations
via the internet if you know the call letters of the station.
Doing
it that way the radio is very clear. My server is earthlink and
it
works great for this.
Linda and Lilly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karyn Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote Discussion List" <[email protected]
Date sent: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:50:08 -0500
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] braille note new keysoft feature
Ray,
I agree with you and would say that the games and radio are
luxuries we can
do without. I don't use the games at all anymore. Oh yes I
checked a
couple of them out when they first came out but that was a couple
of years
ago I think and I haven't checked them, out since and don't
intend to.
These things could be sold separately for those who insist on
having them.
Thanks.
Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VN QT M Power user running 7.5 B 28
Check out my Blog at packerbrat.livejournal.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] braille note new keysoft feature
Hi Paul:
With all due respect, no on the walky talky feature. You can get
push to
talk and direct connect cell phones for that. Strictly a
personal opinion,
but I think the FM Radio is a piece of junk and ought to be done
away with.
I can't even get it to pick up our local jazz station and we're
less than a
mile from its tower.
Ray Campbell, Help Desk Technician
Adaptive Technology Center
Chicago Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired
1850 W.
Roosevelt Road Chicago, IL 60608 312-997-3651 (Voice/Relay) or
888-825-0080
(voice/Relay) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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