Hi alice, I think that the big charge is the braille display more than anything.
Best regards, Orhan. -- Orhan Deniz. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN/Windows Live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: orhan.deniz63 Blog: http://worldandother.wordpress.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008 Last.fm! Profile: http://last.fm/user/orhandeniz1993 On Saturday, 27 September 2008 12:02:25 PM, alice dampman Wrote: > Wouldn't that rather depend on the price of the basic unit without whatever > would be considered as "extras?" Let's say, just as an example, that the > basic unit had the Braille display, of course, the word processor, the book > reader, the address book, the planner, the calculator and cost $1000 instead > of almost $5000. If someone wanted only those few things, he/she could save > a lot of money and get what he/she needed/wanted without paying for things > he/she would not want. Actually, don't some people buy a computer without > all the programs, etc. loaded on it and sort of customize it to fit their > needs? > Both ways have their advantages and their disadvantages, I guess. > Alice > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Head" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Alex Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Evelyn Weckerly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 2:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] braille note new keysoft feature >>I don't wish to sound harsh here, but if humanware took that suggestion >> onboard, then the brailleNote would look a lot less attractive and less >> people would buy it. When I transplanted from a classic to an MPower, if I >> had to buy email and internet capability, games, and the media centre, I >> probably wouldn't have upgraded partly because of the cost to get all >> those >> extra things. It just seems weird. when we buy a computer, do we have to >> pay >> extra for internet explorer, or windows media player? then why should we >> buy >> those things for a brailleNote, which is far more accessible in a lot of >> ways? >> the idea of an address list without email put in seems weird. what's the >> point of having email addresses if there is no email client to use >> them?again, just an opinion, if the brailleNote was only your suggestion >> of >> a basic operating system with no internet, media player, and so on, more >> people would probably buy a PAC Mate or braille sense. >> from Andrew >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alex Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Evelyn Weckerly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:25 AM >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] braille note new keysoft feature >>>I quite agree with you about the features of the bn; I do not use the >>>radio, hardly use the planner, address list, or recorder, and have not >>>once >>>used keysync, but other people do. I disagree, however, that a better >>>speaker would make a weight difference; the voice sense has stereo >>>speakers >>>and is a couple inches smaller all around than a bn mpower or classic, and >>>a braille display, especially the new style, is not much weight at all. >>>People always want their devices to do exactly what they need/want them to >>>do, and because of that I think there is merit in a suggestion made last >>>year that keysoft be a basic operating system: wordprocessor, planner, >>>address list, book reader, calculator, utilities, file manager, and that >>>is >>>it. You can then buy things like a media player, web browser, email, >>>database manager, and so on, depending on what you want your unit to do. >>>That way I would not have to have paid for the games, keysync, or keylist >>>at all as I never use them. >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: Evelyn Weckerly <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To: [email protected] >>>>Date sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:49:23 -0400 >>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] braille note new keysoft feature >>>>I recall an educator of the blind saying something which some of >>> you >>>>on this list are forgetting--mainly, I suppose, because you have >>> been >>>>good Braille readers for years and it's deeply part of you. That >>>>educator said that the games are invaluable for teaching children >>>>Braille skills and direction concepts, among other things. I >>> think >>>>it's time you thought about others who may either need or want >>> the >>>>games. I'm not a gamer, but I have taught English. Games often >>> help >>>>kids learn important concepts. So I'm glad they are there. You >>> don't >>>>have to use that feeature. There are a lot of things in the BN I >>>>don't use, but I know others do use them, so I'm not complaining. >>> I >>>>get the sense that some on this list want this device totally >>>>tailored to their own niche without concern for others. Somebody >>> this >>>>morning expressed a desire for larger speaker. Have you thought >>> about >>>>what that could do to the weight. The speaker is certainly >>> adequate >>>>for voice, and the headphone jack is good. I'm just losing >>> patience >>>>with some of the knitpicking lately. Please, ladies and >>> gentlemen, >>>>don't we have better things to do here? Now I know people want to >>>>dream, want to put for wish lists, but let's ask ourselves >>> whether or >>>>not some feature we do not like may be very valuable to someone >>> else >>>>and try to view things in a broader way. The radio happens to be >>>>software, as I recall Jonathan Mosen saying when he was with >>>>Humanware. I use mine occassionally and am glad it's there. I >>> don't >>>>use the planner. Does that mean I should holler about its >>> presence? >>>>Of course not. I recognize its value to others. Now that is an >>>>example. Beyond email, I don't visit Web sites with my BN. I >>> use a >>>>full-blown computer--laptop or desktop. I am, however, glad it's >>>>there. Now I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular--just >>> asking >>>>us all to back off a bit and gain someperspective. These are >>> great >>>>Braille devices. Mine goes everywhere with me. In fact, I just >>> bought >>>>a used one as a back-up because I could not resist the price. >>>>I hope you will take my comments intended--definitely not as a >>>>condemnation of anyone here. So let's be a positive community of >>>>users and think out of the box sometimes. If you have read this >>> far, >>>>I warmly thank you all, and please forgive this something of a >>>>exasperated rant. >>>>Cordially, >>>>Evelyn >>>>Hi, >>>>At 12:00 AM 9/25/2008, you wrote: >>>>>Hi all, >>>>>I agree on the games, but love the radio. You can get the >>> stations >>>>>via the internet if you know the call letters of the station. >>> Doing >>>>>it that way the radio is very clear. My server is earthlink and >>> it >>>>>works great for this. >>>>>Linda and Lilly >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Karyn Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To: "Braillenote Discussion List" <[email protected] >>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:50:08 -0500 >>>>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] braille note new keysoft feature >>>>>>Ray, >>>>>>I agree with you and would say that the games and radio are >>>>>luxuries we can >>>>>>do without. I don't use the games at all anymore. Oh yes I >>>>>checked a >>>>>>couple of them out when they first came out but that was a couple >>>>>of years >>>>>>ago I think and I haven't checked them, out since and don't >>>>>intend to. >>>>>>These things could be sold separately for those who insist on >>>>>having them. >>>>>>Thanks. >>>>>>Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>VN QT M Power user running 7.5 B 28 >>>>>>Check out my Blog at packerbrat.livejournal.com >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray >>>>>Campbell >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:58 AM >>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] braille note new keysoft feature >>>>>>Hi Paul: >>>>>>With all due respect, no on the walky talky feature. You can get >>>>>push to >>>>>>talk and direct connect cell phones for that. Strictly a >>>>>personal opinion, >>>>>>but I think the FM Radio is a piece of junk and ought to be done >>>>>away with. >>>>>>I can't even get it to pick up our local jazz station and we're >>>>>less than a >>>>>>mile from its tower. >>>>>>Ray Campbell, Help Desk Technician >>>>>>Adaptive Technology Center >>>>>>Chicago Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired >>>>>1850 W. >>>>>>Roosevelt Road Chicago, IL 60608 312-997-3651 (Voice/Relay) or >>>>>888-825-0080 >>>>>>(voice/Relay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>AIM Screen Name: tclhelp >>>>>>___ >>>>>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>>>>copy to the list as well. >>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>>>>Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.2/1690 - Release Date: >>>>>9/25/2008 >>>>>>7:05 AM >>>>>>___ >>>>>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>>>>copy to the list as well. >>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>___ >>>>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>>>copy to the list as well. >>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>>copy to the list as well. >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> ___ >>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>> copy to the list as well. >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. 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