This list is not at all like it was when Dean Jackson and Jonathon Mosen were 
on the list.  One or the other was always there to give a helping hand.  Dean 
was such an inteligent man.  It was such a shock when he died, because I also 
have epelepsi.  Jonathon got to be a friend at conventions.  His move was also 
a shock, but I come in contact with him on another list.  
If either of our old supporters were here, I bet Peggy's problem would be 
solved.  Back then, you could tell, they cared.  My big reason for not changing 
companies is my epelepsi.  It is hard enough to master one device with out 
having to learn a new command structure and money plays a big part, too.  Right 
now, I can not afford a trade in.
Good luck Peggy and others.  I hope Human Ware listens.

Terry Powers

-----Original Message-----
From: Peggy Kern [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:57 PM
To: Braillenote
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] re: Very Angry at Humanware's change in 
thewayupgrades are provided

Joe, I've expressed my appreciation for the Apex many times on this list, and 
will continue to do so.  And I have been working with Support on resolving 
this.  But I brought it to the list because the support person told me that if 
enough people were having the problem, maybe they could change their minds 
about not having a .zip file.  I figured the only way to find out was to ask.  
<smile>

As far as talking about "getting the cold shoulder", I believe I said I was 
trying not to assume it was lack of concern on Humanware's part, but that they 
were just busy trying to figure out a solution.  I think what makes me feel a 
lack of concern is that the Humanware people used to be extremely active on the 
list, just like people on other support lists;  but over the past few years, 
their participation has gotten less and less, even when people are frustrated.  
I just miss the days when they'd interact with us.

Peggy
http://kernsac.livejournal.com

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <[email protected]>
To: "'Braillenote'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] re: Very Angry at Humanware's change in 
thewayupgrades are provided


>I mean, I just don't get it.  Humanware just put out an excellent product 
>to
> help people interact with mainstream devices, and now, just because the
> company has not gotten around to setting up the download specification in 
> a
> certain format, people are feeling cornered and complain of getting a cold
> shoulder?  I'm sure that if half the energy that went into writing the
> backlash messages had gone into communicating with the company, the 
> problem
> would have been fixed by now.  You're welcome, by the way, for taking the
> time for at least trying to provide the update in a format some of you 
> guys
> can download.  Complain all you want about unresponsive company
> representatives, but to me this all smells like a lot of lack of
> appreciation and too much exaggeration.
>
> Joe Orozco
>
> "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
> crowd."--Max Lucado
>
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