I am not sure about qt input and chords. I imagine it would work to press the spacebar with the braille character, but I cannot be certain as I do not have a qt to test. However, I am almost sure that qt input is not possible, at least not on iOS devices. I am not sure if this is hw's fault, apple's fault, or both, so I would email both of them ([email protected] and [email protected]) if you want to see qt input fully supported.
On 2/21/12, Robert Gilchrist <[email protected]> wrote: > Alex: > > I am also trying to pair an Apex qt with IDevices. > > I have a couple of questions: > > Once paired with the IDevice, do I need to use the Braille Keyboard, or can > I simply invoke the normal QWERTY output. My concern is that the Function B > command does not apparently support, the Braille chording commands, which I > shouldn't have to use, if I simply use the normal keyboard emulator > commands. > > The reason this comes up, is the large number of discussions where Braille > chords, or dot combinations are discussed during the answers to these > pairing questions. > > Rob > > Original Message > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hall > Sent: February-21-12 2:29 PM > To: Christina Moore > Cc: braillenote > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Pairing an Apex with iDevices using WIFI or > Bluetooth > > Okay, for both Christina and John, I called hw earlier. Try these steps: > 1. On the apex, turn bluetooth off. Do a normal reset. > 2. On the iPod (or iPhone, or whatever iTouch you are using - they all work > the same way), go to settings. Select general, bluetooth, and turn bluetooth > off by double tapping the bluetooth switch button. > 3. Turn the iPod off by holding down the power button until vo says "slide > to power off", then double tap to turn off (or just keep holding the power > button). Once the iPod is completely off, turn it back on. > 4. Now turn bluetooth back on on the apex and enter terminal mode, selecting > bluetooth as the port. Make sure to manually turn bluetooth on before going > into the terminal, as the apex sometimes fails to automatically turn it on. > 5. On the iPod, go to settings, general, accessibility,VoiceOver, braille. > You will get an alert about turning on bluetooth; tell it to turn it on. > > If that fails to bring up the apex, try a 5-second reset on the apex. > That is, hold the reset button in for five seconds before releasing it. > Please note that you do NOT hold any keys down for this reset. > Once the apex comes back to the main menu, try going to terminal again and > searching for displays on the iPod. If all that fails, let me know and we > can try a few other options. Also, if either of you have skype, contact me > off-list if you would like me to try to walk you through all this on a skype > call. We can also use the bnUsers' TeamTalk to meet (see > http://chat.braillenoteusers.info) if you want. > > On 2/21/12, Christina Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >> The iPhone is not showing up on the apex and bluetooth is turned on >> for both the Apex and iPhone. >> >> On 2/21/12, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>> It sounds like bluetooth is off on the apex, or the apex is already >>> paired with the iPod. Go to the apex and then to options, >>> connectivity, bluetooth, and hit y to make sure it is on. Now say no >>> to search for devices, and look at the list of devices. Is the iPod >>> in that list? >>> >>> On 2/21/12, Christina Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Nothing shows up in bluetooth settings. For some reason the iPhone >>>> isn't finding the Apex. >>>> All I hear in bluetooth settings is "devices" >>>> "searching dimmed" >>>> "in progress" >>>> "now discoverable" >>>> The same happens when I am in braille settings. >>>> >>>> On 2/21/12, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Were you able to find the forget button in the iPod's bluetooth >>>>> settings? >>>>> >>>>> On 2/21/12, Christina Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I did this and still am getting the same message. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/20/12, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> In that case, it is likely not the problem. Try turning th"a >>>>>>> phone off, then back on. This is not locking and unlocking, but >>>>>>> rather cÿshutting it down and then booting it back up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from my iPod) >>>>>>> [email protected]; //facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:46, Christina <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What if the apex doesn't show up in bluetooth settings? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Network settings are not bluetooth settings. Try this: >>>>>>>>> 1. Go to settings, general, bluetooth. >>>>>>>>> 2. Find your apex in the list of devices and double tap it. >>>>>>>>> 3. Double tap the "forget this device" button, then confirm >>>>>>>>> your action in the popup that appears. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, go to the bluetooth menu on the apex and make sure the >>>>>>>>> iPod is not paired or active. If it is, remove pairing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2/20/12, John Ramm <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Alex and list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm desperately trying to pair my Braillenote Apex to my IPod >>>>>>>>>> touch, it's the 32 cell version running KS9.2. The IPod is >>>>>>>>>> up-to-date. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've listened to your podcast, but unfortunately I'd >>>>>>>>>> previously tried to pair my Apex in the normal bluetooth way >>>>>>>>>> rather than through the braille settings as I now know I'm >>>>>>>>>> supposed to. So now when I put the Apex in terminal mode and >>>>>>>>>> go to braille under the voiceOver settings there are no >>>>>>>>>> devices and the search box is dimmed. It's almost as though >>>>>>>>>> the IPod has a record of my Apex as unsupported and is just >>>>>>>>>> ignoring it even though it's ready to pair. I've tried >>>>>>>>>> reseting my IPod's network settings, but although the IPod >>>>>>>>>> managed to lose my wi-fi settings my Apex is still being >>>>>>>>>> ignored. How can i tell the IPod to forget about my Apex and try > again? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Talk soon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> At 20:06 19/02/2012, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Glad it worked. If you search google for "ios braille >>>>>>>>>>> commands", you can find the official list of braille >>>>>>>>>>> commands. If any use a keystroke that the bn already uses, >>>>>>>>>>> such as space-e, space-h, or space-o, hit enter with 4 5 6 >>>>>>>>>>> before pressing the keystroke. This will tell keysoft to >>>>>>>>>>> ignore the keystroke you are about to enter. For example, to >>>>>>>>>>> scroll right a page, the command is space-o. The apex will >>>>>>>>>>> enter the options menu if you hit this, though. You must >>>>>>>>>>> first hit that enter-4-5-6 command, then space-o, to have the >>>>>>>>>>> keystroke passed through. Hope this made sense. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, here are the thumbkey commands specific to the apex. I >>>>>>>>>>> will use >>>>>>>>>>> thumb1 through thumb4, just as iOS's keyboard help will. >>>>>>>>>>> Thumb1 is on the left, and thumb4 is on the right. >>>>>>>>>>> thumb1-thumb2: backspace >>>>>>>>>>> thumb3-thumb4: enter >>>>>>>>>>> thumb2-thum3: home >>>>>>>>>>> thumb1-thumb4: toggle screen curtain >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/12, Keith Christian <[email protected]> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, leaving the Apex in terminal mode was the problem... I >>>>>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> paired and it is now working. Now to learn those commands! >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to you and the rest of the list for your informative >>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Keith >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Alex Hall [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:47 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: Chris Nusbaum >>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Keith Christian; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Pairing an Apex with iDevices >>>>>>>>>>>> using WIFI or Bluetooth >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If, after listening to the podcasts, you still can't get it, >>>>>>>>>>>> let us know. I think they will help, though; I go through >>>>>>>>>>>> the entire process, explaining what is going on and what >>>>>>>>>>>> potential problems you might have. >>>>>>>>>>>> Wifi cannot be used at all to connect the two devices, for >>>>>>>>>>>> any purpose. >>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>> only exception is if your iPhone or 3g iPad has tethering >>>>>>>>>>>> enabled; in that case, the apex will see the iTouch as a >>>>>>>>>>>> router when you scan for wifi networks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/12, Chris Nusbaum <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Keith, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would take a listen to the podcast series on using a >>>>>>>>>>>>> BrailleNote with iOS devices created by Alex Hall; these >>>>>>>>>>>>> podcasts will show you how to do it. You can find these >>>>>>>>>>>>> podcasts on www.braillenoteusers.info/media. I do know this >>>>>>>>>>>>> about pairing the Apex with iOS devices: if you want to use >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apex as a Braille terminal for the iOS device, meaning >>>>>>>>>>>>> that everything that shows up on the iDevice's screen will >>>>>>>>>>>>> show up on the Apex's Braille display and that you can >>>>>>>>>>>>> control the iPod/iPhone/iPad with the BrailleNote's >>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard, you will need to pair it using bluetooth. The >>>>>>>>>>>>> podcasts I mentioned above will show you the procedure for >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing this. Hope this helps! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/12, Keith Christian <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested in connecting an Apex with an iPad and an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone outline the appropriate procedure for doing this? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apex and the Apex on the iPad. They both show up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> under WIFI and bluetooth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the advantages or disadvantages for using WIFI vs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bluetooth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when pairing them? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate your thoughts and advice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keith >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy to the list as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Nusbaum >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>> education that exists. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>>> a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, >>>>>>>>>>>>> blindness can be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kenneth Jernigan >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit the I C.A.N. 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