Alex: What is the default, when I read ghe manual, it didn't give a default, so since I am a ham radio operator, I put my callsign after apex. What is the default syntax?
Rob Original Message From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: February-23-12 9:45 AM To: John Ramm Cc: braillenote Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Pairing an Apex with iDevices using WIFI or Bluetooth Indeed, that reset should not be done unless you know what you are doing. It is not a way to solve lockups or other odd apex behavior, so steer clear of it unless you have a good reason for doing it and are very clear of exactly what the consequences are. That said, it did the trick. Now, to second John: Christina, did you ever get this working? On 2/23/12, John Ramm <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All > > This is a big thank you to Alex - THANK YOU! > > My Apex is now controling my IPod - yippie! We managed this just > before one or both devices hit the nearest wall - expensive! Turns out > that I'd changed the name of my Apex and the IPod was specifically > looking for a device called apex (all in caps) followed by six numbers > (usually the last six numbers of your serial number). I had no idea! > > Along the way we did a reset on the Apex while holding down dots 1 2 > and 3. This is definitely a last resort and did uninstall my GPS > software not just it's licence. Lucky I keep stuff elsewhere, but be > very careful with this reset. > > So it can be a real hassle to pair an Apex with an Apple device, but > Alex tells me that once they have got to know each other they'll be > the best of friends for ages barring anything really serious. > > Thanks again Alex, now how are you getting on, Christine? > > Talk soon > > John > > At 22:28 21/02/2012, Alex Hall wrote: >>Okay, for both Christina and John, I called hw earlier. Try these steps: >>1. On the apex, turn bluetooth off. Do a normal reset. >>2. On the iPod (or iPhone, or whatever iTouch you are using - they all >>work the same way), go to settings. Select general, bluetooth, and >>turn bluetooth off by double tapping the bluetooth switch button. >>3. Turn the iPod off by holding down the power button until vo says >>"slide to power off", then double tap to turn off (or just keep >>holding the power button). Once the iPod is completely off, turn it >>back on. >>4. Now turn bluetooth back on on the apex and enter terminal mode, >>selecting bluetooth as the port. Make sure to manually turn bluetooth >>on before going into the terminal, as the apex sometimes fails to >>automatically turn it on. >>5. On the iPod, go to settings, general, accessibility,VoiceOver, >>braille. You will get an alert about turning on bluetooth; tell it to >>turn it on. >> >>If that fails to bring up the apex, try a 5-second reset on the apex. >>That is, hold the reset button in for five seconds before releasing >>it. Please note that you do NOT hold any keys down for this reset. >>Once the apex comes back to the main menu, try going to terminal again >>and searching for displays on the iPod. If all that fails, let me know >>and we can try a few other options. Also, if either of you have skype, >>contact me off-list if you would like me to try to walk you through >>all this on a skype call. We can also use the bnUsers' TeamTalk to >>meet (see http://chat.braillenoteusers.info) if you want. >> >>On 2/21/12, Christina Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >> > The iPhone is not showing up on the apex and bluetooth is turned on >> > for both the Apex and iPhone. >> > >> > On 2/21/12, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It sounds like bluetooth is off on the apex, or the apex is >> >> already paired with the iPod. Go to the apex and then to options, >> >> connectivity, bluetooth, and hit y to make sure it is on. Now say >> >> no to search for devices, and look at the list of devices. Is the >> >> iPod in that list? >> >> >> >> On 2/21/12, Christina Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >> >>> Nothing shows up in bluetooth settings. For some reason the >> >>> iPhone isn't finding the Apex. >> >>> All I hear in bluetooth settings is "devices" >> >>> "searching dimmed" >> >>> "in progress" >> >>> "now discoverable" >> >>> The same happens when I am in braille settings. >> >>> >> >>> On 2/21/12, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> Were you able to find the forget button in the iPod's bluetooth >> >>>> settings? >> >>>> >> >>>> On 2/21/12, Christina Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> I did this and still am getting the same message. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 2/20/12, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> In that case, it is likely not the problem. Try turning th"a >> >>>>>> phone off, then back on. This is not locking and unlocking, >> >>>>>> but rather cÿshutting it down and then booting it back up. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Have a great day, >> >>>>>> Alex (msg sent from my iPod) >> >>>>>> [email protected]; //facebook.com/mehgcap >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:46, Christina >> >>>>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> What if the apex doesn't show up in bluetooth settings? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Network settings are not bluetooth settings. Try this: >> >>>>>>>> 1. Go to settings, general, bluetooth. >> >>>>>>>> 2. Find your apex in the list of devices and double tap it. >> >>>>>>>> 3. Double tap the "forget this device" button, then confirm >> >>>>>>>> your action in the popup that appears. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Also, go to the bluetooth menu on the apex and make sure the >> >>>>>>>> iPod is not paired or active. If it is, remove pairing. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 2/20/12, John Ramm <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> Hi Alex and list >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I'm desperately trying to pair my Braillenote Apex to my >> >>>>>>>>> IPod touch, it's the 32 cell version running KS9.2. The >> >>>>>>>>> IPod is up-to-date. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I've listened to your podcast, but unfortunately I'd >> >>>>>>>>> previously tried to pair my Apex in the normal bluetooth >> >>>>>>>>> way rather than through the braille settings as I now know >> >>>>>>>>> I'm supposed to. So now when I put the Apex in terminal >> >>>>>>>>> mode and go to braille under the voiceOver settings there >> >>>>>>>>> are no devices and the search box is dimmed. It's almost as >> >>>>>>>>> though the IPod has a record of my Apex as unsupported and >> >>>>>>>>> is just ignoring it even though it's ready to pair. I've >> >>>>>>>>> tried reseting my IPod's network settings, but although the >> >>>>>>>>> IPod managed to lose my wi-fi settings my Apex is still >> >>>>>>>>> being ignored. How can i tell the IPod to forget about my >> >>>>>>>>> Apex and try again? >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Talk soon >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> John >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> At 20:06 19/02/2012, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> Glad it worked. If you search google for "ios braille >> >>>>>>>>>> commands", you can find the official list of braille >> >>>>>>>>>> commands. If any use a keystroke that the bn already uses, >> >>>>>>>>>> such as space-e, space-h, or space-o, hit enter with 4 5 6 >> >>>>>>>>>> before pressing the keystroke. This will tell keysoft to >> >>>>>>>>>> ignore the keystroke you are about to enter. For example, >> >>>>>>>>>> to scroll right a page, the command is space-o. The apex >> >>>>>>>>>> will enter the options menu if you hit this, though. You >> >>>>>>>>>> must first hit that >> >>>>>>>>>> enter-4-5-6 >> >>>>>>>>>> command, then space-o, to have the keystroke passed through. >> >>>>>>>>>> Hope >> >>>>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>> made sense. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Also, here are the thumbkey commands specific to the apex. >> >>>>>>>>>> I will use >> >>>>>>>>>> thumb1 through thumb4, just as iOS's keyboard help will. >> >>>>>>>>>> Thumb1 is on the left, and thumb4 is on the right. >> >>>>>>>>>> thumb1-thumb2: backspace >> >>>>>>>>>> thumb3-thumb4: enter >> >>>>>>>>>> thumb2-thum3: home >> >>>>>>>>>> thumb1-thumb4: toggle screen curtain >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/12, Keith Christian >> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, leaving the Apex in terminal mode was the problem... >> >>>>>>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>>> got >> >>>>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>> paired and it is now working. Now to learn those commands! >> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to you and the rest of the list for your >> >>>>>>>>>>> informative suggestions. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Keith >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Alex Hall [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:47 AM >> >>>>>>>>>>> To: Chris Nusbaum >> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Keith Christian; [email protected] >> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Pairing an Apex with iDevices >> >>>>>>>>>>> using WIFI or Bluetooth >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> If, after listening to the podcasts, you still can't get >> >>>>>>>>>>> it, let us know. I think they will help, though; I go >> >>>>>>>>>>> through the entire process, explaining what is going on >> >>>>>>>>>>> and what potential problems you might have. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Wifi cannot be used at all to connect the two devices, >> >>>>>>>>>>> for any purpose. >> >>>>>>>>>>> The >> >>>>>>>>>>> only exception is if your iPhone or 3g iPad has tethering >> >>>>>>>>>>> enabled; in that case, the apex will see the iTouch as a >> >>>>>>>>>>> router when you scan for wifi networks. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/12, Chris Nusbaum <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Keith, >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would take a listen to the podcast series on using a >> >>>>>>>>>>>> BrailleNote with iOS devices created by Alex Hall; these >> >>>>>>>>>>>> podcasts will show you how to do it. You can find these >> >>>>>>>>>>>> podcasts on www.braillenoteusers.info/media. I do know >> >>>>>>>>>>>> this about pairing the Apex with iOS devices: if you >> >>>>>>>>>>>> want to use the Apex as a Braille terminal for the iOS >> >>>>>>>>>>>> device, meaning that everything that shows up on the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> iDevice's screen will show up on the Apex's Braille >> >>>>>>>>>>>> display and that you can control the iPod/iPhone/iPad >> >>>>>>>>>>>> with the BrailleNote's keyboard, you will need to pair >> >>>>>>>>>>>> it using bluetooth. The podcasts I mentioned above will >> >>>>>>>>>>>> show you the procedure for doing this. Hope this helps! >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/12, Keith Christian >> >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested in connecting an Apex with an iPad and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> an iPhone. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone outline the appropriate procedure for doing this? I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> see >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> iPad >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apex and the Apex on the iPad. They both show up >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> under WIFI and bluetooth. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the advantages or disadvantages for using WIFI vs. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> bluetooth >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> when pairing them? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate your thoughts and advice. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Keith >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy to the list as well. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> visit >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Nusbaum >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> The >> >>>>>>>>>>>> real >> >>>>>>>>>>>> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education >> >>>>>>>>>>>> that exists. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> If >> >>>>>>>>>>>> a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, >> >>>>>>>>>>>> blindness can be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- Kenneth Jernigan >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit the I C.A.N. 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