Thanks for your precious feedback. You dissapoint me because i thought
that if change the pressurstat with a pid the heater would had a
faster response due to solid states relays instead of a presurstat
which i believe has a slow response due to the logic of the response.
(Must dedect the drop pf pressure to turn on the heater). In other
words the problem is that the heater is only 1200 watt for a large 1,5
liters boiler. I read at the group, that the Australian Version has
2200 watt heater, means almost double power! So Australian version
must be perfect. But why expobar didn't put a 2200 watt heater at
European 220 Volts machines? Also why Expobar didn't put a double
chanel PID that could control also the steam boiler. At 2014 when
brewtus IV launched the double channel PID costs 15 $ at China and 30$
dollars to buy them from Gicar.
A double channel PID may cost less than a single channel PID and a
preurestat... Am i right?
At last i ask again if anyone knows about the 220 Volts if kick both
boilers together at the same time, or if there is someone made the
conversion and can upload an electric circuit of the conversion.
Thanks in advance one more time to every possible answer.
Τη Κυριακή, 24 Μαΐου 2015 - 7:36:08 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης KittJ έγραψε:
When we did the first PID conversions (on B-1s), we installed 2
PIDs. We did not notice any negative changes. The only "benefit"
I can recall was that we could change the temp/pressure with a few
external button pushes rather than go in and guestimate the impact
of turning an awkward screw. The reality is that there is no
pressing reason to change the steam pressure frequently ... the
issue is whether you want to run slightly over recommended
pressure for the increased steaming time. The factory team felt
that feature offered little value when they finally added the
single PID to the brew boiler in the later machines (and probably
avoided ~$100 of audio all mfg. costs. PIDs were not cheap in 2006.)
On May 24, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Pavlos Kyprizlis
<[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
Hallo to the group. I have a 220version of the machine. Do you
know someone if the brewtus can kick simultaneously both boilers
at 220volt? We have no problems with the Amps (220 volt houses)
as you know. Has someone change the presurstat with a PID and
could give as a feedback about the performance of the steam? e.g.
the pressure gauge dropped quickly or not at the same quantities
of milks....
Thanks in Advance for any answer!
My brewtus is IV and of course we in Europe call the machine
"Expobar Leva 2dual boiler " instead of "Expobar Brewtus"
The heaters of the machine are both 1200 watt as US version.
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Τη Κυριακή, 24 Μαΐου 2015 - 7:36:08 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης KittJ έγραψε:
When we did the first PID conversions (on B-1s), we installed 2
PIDs. We did not notice any negative changes. The only "benefit"
I can recall was that we could change the temp/pressure with a few
external button pushes rather than go in and guestimate the impact
of turning an awkward screw. The reality is that there is no
pressing reason to change the steam pressure frequently ... the
issue is whether you want to run slightly over recommended
pressure for the increased steaming time. The factory team felt
that feature offered little value when they finally added the
single PID to the brew boiler in the later machines (and probably
avoided ~$100 of audio all mfg. costs. PIDs were not cheap in 2006.)
On May 24, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Pavlos Kyprizlis
<[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
Hallo to the group. I have a 220version of the machine. Do you
know someone if the brewtus can kick simultaneously both boilers
at 220volt? We have no problems with the Amps (220 volt houses)
as you know. Has someone change the presurstat with a PID and
could give as a feedback about the performance of the steam? e.g.
the pressure gauge dropped quickly or not at the same quantities
of milks....
Thanks in Advance for any answer!
My brewtus is IV and of course we in Europe call the machine
"Expobar Leva 2dual boiler " instead of "Expobar Brewtus"
The heaters of the machine are both 1200 watt as US version.
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Τη Κυριακή, 24 Μαΐου 2015 - 7:36:08 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης KittJ έγραψε:
When we did the first PID conversions (on B-1s), we installed 2
PIDs. We did not notice any negative changes. The only "benefit"
I can recall was that we could change the temp/pressure with a few
external button pushes rather than go in and guestimate the impact
of turning an awkward screw. The reality is that there is no
pressing reason to change the steam pressure frequently ... the
issue is whether you want to run slightly over recommended
pressure for the increased steaming time. The factory team felt
that feature offered little value when they finally added the
single PID to the brew boiler in the later machines (and probably
avoided ~$100 of audio all mfg. costs. PIDs were not cheap in 2006.)
On May 24, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Pavlos Kyprizlis
<[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
Hallo to the group. I have a 220version of the machine. Do you
know someone if the brewtus can kick simultaneously both boilers
at 220volt? We have no problems with the Amps (220 volt houses)
as you know. Has someone change the presurstat with a PID and
could give as a feedback about the performance of the steam? e.g.
the pressure gauge dropped quickly or not at the same quantities
of milks....
Thanks in Advance for any answer!
My brewtus is IV and of course we in Europe call the machine
"Expobar Leva 2dual boiler " instead of "Expobar Brewtus"
The heaters of the machine are both 1200 watt as US version.
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