Actually don't need to remove the boilers to pull heating elements Bruce. I finally figured out this summer that this is what the black plastic circles under the machine are for--access to the elements. Now, whether the elements will budge or not without ripping out all the attached tubing, that's another question... :)
I have had both vibe and later rotary on my B2, which is about 8 years old or so now. I like the rotary for quiet and not having to fill the reservoir, but as you said, it makes no difference on espresso quality. As to your question about maintenance, my experience has been pretty good overall. I went through a couple of vibe pumps early on, and seem to use a pressure stat about every 3-4 years. I replace the group gasket every 6-9 months, and have replaced the lever seals once. Somewhere around 7 years, I think you can expect things like heating elements, over limit switches, controller box, maybe seals in the group, maybe solenoid, etc. I just spent about $500 on my machine this summer and it's basically new again. If you are handy with tools, these are easy machines to work on. If not, well...find a friend. :) There's a great group of people on this forum, and though it's quieter here than it used to be, there is a ton of info in the archives, and Todd the owner of Whole Latte Love (US distributor) has helped most of us personally at some time or other. I don't think you'll regret the machine, especially at that price. Best, Ben Sent from my apple IIe > On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:38, Bruce J keeler <[email protected]> wrote: > > The boilers themselves are quite tricky to replace, as are the heating > elements (mostly because you need to remove the boiler). Everything else is > reasonable easy. > > Opinions are divided as to the merits of the rotary pump, but you can always > upgrade later if you want to. The vibe pump works well enough in my opinion. > > 1149 Euros sounds like a great price, especially with a two year parts > warranty. > >> On 10/7/2015 4:48 AM, Petar Rusev wrote: >> Dear Herman, >> >> Thank you very much! How long do you have the machine? Is it worth its >> money? I mean the following: if there is a risk to pay small amount in >> aquiring the machine and after that to pay frequently for spare parts >> replacement after the warranty expiration? >> >> I am asking you, because I have the only chance to buy the machine online >> from this shop with excellent price 1149 EURO: >> >> http://espresso-machines.nu/ >> >> I will buy only water tank version (non-plumbable one), becase I decided >> that there is no sense to use rotary pump which cannot bring better >> aroma/taste that vibration one. Could you agree with my assertion? >> >> So, they promissed me to send parts within 2 years warranty in order to >> replace them my self. >> >> Is it easy to replace parts? For example, these A1 and A2 PID errors? >> >> Thank you for your time! >> >> >> >> 2015-10-07 14:27 GMT+03:00 herman dickens <[email protected]>: >>> You don't have to remove the boiler. You do have to remove the cover on the >>> side of the machine where the water tank is stored. Three are two phillips >>> screws on top and 2 allen screws on the side. Once that cover is removed >>> you will be able to see the pump. there are mounts that hold the pump in >>> place that need to be removed. You may be able to get by with just removing >>> the mount on the outside and sliding the pump out once you unscrew it. Good >>> luck. >>> Herman >>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:20 AM, espressofan2015 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Dear community, >>>> >>>> I asked WWL to explane is it necessary to umnount the brew boiler in order >>>> to change the vibration pump, but still get no answer. I saw that Todd >>>> replaces the vibration pump of a machine without a brew boiler. 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