Cool that this worked - but no, not really - miracles happen when
superstition defeats physics.

This was just simple, crude physics realizing that water doesn't compress
like steam.

The Brewtus has exceeded our expectations - with minor E61 tweaking and
fresh thermal grease on the thermocouple - it gives consistently tasty
pours from commercial beans, which is an inspiration to haul out the Gene
Coffee and resume roasting again.

Cheers
Jim








Water is infinitely less compressible than steam - just given it an escape
route.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 12:43 James Williamson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Ok Jim. Followed instructions and what do you know stream is regular and
> forcefull and tap is hot and while not super forceful. It is adequate.
> You are kind of a miracle worker.  Thanks so much!!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 12, 2020, at 10:26 PM, Jim Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hmmm – odd result, here’s a graphic depicting the Brewtus’s water flow:
>
> <783DA6BD8F0B413F9718C9FEA8016FFA.jpg>
>
> *                                                      [Taken out of an
> excellent article from ‘Bella Barista’ available here: *https://docp
> layer.net/18866840-Expobar-office-leva-dual-boiler.html
>
>
>
> Note that the hot water tap is fed directly from the bottom of the steam
> boiler – quoting from the same Bella Barista article:
>
>
>
> “Hot Water:
>
> The pipe for the hot water tap is at the base of the Steam/Hot Water
> boiler. As the hot water tap is opened, steam pressure forces the hot water
> from the boiler
>
> through the pipe and out of the hot water outlet.”
>
>
>
> Something you said in an earlier post might illuminate this problem too: 
> “*also
> steam wand provides water (more)*.”
>
>
>
> The steam wand shouldn’t flow water when the machine’s up to temperature,
> outside of a brief ‘Sput!’ as it clears its throat – I’m suspecting that
> the boiler’s not getting up to temperature (around 102-105C) – possibly
> because the steam boiler has overfilled (it relies on free space in the
> boiler for steam to form) and as the water expands it trips the
> pressurestat.
>
>
>
> So let’s see if bleeding the boiler helps – from a cold machine - point
> the steam wand at the tray, open just the steam tap, and turn the machine
> on, after roughly 20 minutes you should see water from the steam tap, when
> it stops close the tap, wait a minute or two and re-open the tap. You’ll
> either see more water, or very wet steam comes out. Repeat this process
> until dry steam shoots out with real velocity, or you reach brewing
> temperature.
>
>
>
> Hopefully this cures the hot water problem – the next suspects are the
> pressurestat or a blown stem tank heating element.
>
>
>
> Good Luck
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *James Williamson <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:29 PM
> *To: *Brewtus <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: No group head water flow
>
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
>
>
> The water from the hot water tap(what little trickles that I'm getting)
>  is Luke warm or closer to cool...too cool to even register on my
> thermometer.
>
> Steam Wand and Group Head is 90+
>
>
>
> James
>
> On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-8 [email protected]
> wrote:
>
> A thin, ragged cheer from the troops...
>
>
>
> Congratulations, welcome to the DIY ranks - tere's a certain glee in
> (temporarily) frustrating the Dark Lords of Entropy with simple tools.
>
>
>
> I'll do some digging on your hot water tap flow after I dislodge the sleep
> cat from my lap and start dinner.
>
>
>
> A useful place to start would be to measure the temperature of the water
> from the hot water tap. This tap is fed directly from the steam boiler so
> expect at least 96C or above.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
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