Never mind found out how to program PID Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 13, 2020, at 10:24 AM, James Williamson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Display is at 96 > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Nov 13, 2020, at 10:22 AM, James Williamson >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> Well it was almost a miracle. A little water returned in the steam briefly >> once I started pulling shots out of the brew head. Tap continuing to work at >> temp. Might be overall temp too low? I can work around water by just ring >> stem wand longer til it goes the steam. How do I increase overall temp? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Nov 13, 2020, at 10:14 AM, James Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Cool that this worked - but no, not really - miracles happen when >>> superstition defeats physics. >>> >>> This was just simple, crude physics realizing that water doesn't compress >>> like steam. >>> >>> The Brewtus has exceeded our expectations - with minor E61 tweaking and >>> fresh thermal grease on the thermocouple - it gives consistently tasty >>> pours from commercial beans, which is an inspiration to haul out the Gene >>> Coffee and resume roasting again. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Water is infinitely less compressible than steam - just given it an escape >>> route. >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 12:43 James Williamson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Ok Jim. Followed instructions and what do you know stream is regular and >>>> forcefull and tap is hot and while not super forceful. It is adequate. >>>> You are kind of a miracle worker. Thanks so much!!! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 10:26 PM, Jim Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hmmm – odd result, here’s a graphic depicting the Brewtus’s water flow: >>>>> >>>>> <783DA6BD8F0B413F9718C9FEA8016FFA.jpg> >>>>> [Taken out of an >>>>> excellent article from ‘Bella Barista’ available here: >>>>> https://docplayer.net/18866840-Expobar-office-leva-dual-boiler.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Note that the hot water tap is fed directly from the bottom of the steam >>>>> boiler – quoting from the same Bella Barista article: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> “Hot Water: >>>>> >>>>> The pipe for the hot water tap is at the base of the Steam/Hot Water >>>>> boiler. As the hot water tap is opened, steam pressure forces the hot >>>>> water from the boiler >>>>> >>>>> through the pipe and out of the hot water outlet.” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Something you said in an earlier post might illuminate this problem too: >>>>> “also steam wand provides water (more).” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The steam wand shouldn’t flow water when the machine’s up to temperature, >>>>> outside of a brief ‘Sput!’ as it clears its throat – I’m suspecting that >>>>> the boiler’s not getting up to temperature (around 102-105C) – possibly >>>>> because the steam boiler has overfilled (it relies on free space in the >>>>> boiler for steam to form) and as the water expands it trips the >>>>> pressurestat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So let’s see if bleeding the boiler helps – from a cold machine - point >>>>> the steam wand at the tray, open just the steam tap, and turn the machine >>>>> on, after roughly 20 minutes you should see water from the steam tap, >>>>> when it stops close the tap, wait a minute or two and re-open the tap. >>>>> You’ll either see more water, or very wet steam comes out. Repeat this >>>>> process until dry steam shoots out with real velocity, or you reach >>>>> brewing temperature. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully this cures the hot water problem – the next suspects are the >>>>> pressurestat or a blown stem tank heating element. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good Luck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: James Williamson >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:29 PM >>>>> To: Brewtus >>>>> Subject: Re: No group head water flow >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jim, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The water from the hot water tap(what little trickles that I'm getting) >>>>> is Luke warm or closer to cool...too cool to even register on my >>>>> thermometer. >>>>> >>>>> Steam Wand and Group Head is 90+ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-8 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A thin, ragged cheer from the troops... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Congratulations, welcome to the DIY ranks - tere's a certain glee in >>>>> (temporarily) frustrating the Dark Lords of Entropy with simple tools. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'll do some digging on your hot water tap flow after I dislodge the >>>>> sleep cat from my lap and start dinner. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A useful place to start would be to measure the temperature of the water >>>>> from the hot water tap. This tap is fed directly from the steam boiler so >>>>> expect at least 96C or above. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/497B9E3C-9710-4BDB-AB6C-2C5B36DD59D5%40hxcore.ol. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Brewtus" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/B591703F-12F5-4F85-B2D8-09DFF15F48E2%40gmail.com. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Brewtus" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CAJLWrxsoGyJSoY7pt6Y_-4gsuwwUScV5FVvf_ireF7dG4hG98A%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. 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