At 13:05 26-5-01 -0400, John Giorgis blated:
> >4. Amnesty International has no idea what they are talking about. (not
>likely)
>
>We have a winner! The answer is #4.
>
>Article 3 was lifted almost directly from the US Declaration of
>Independence. (Which was in turn lifted from a philosopher - I think it
>was Locke.)
>
>Article 4 comes almost directly from the US Bill of Rights.
>
>Given that the US Constitution also explicitly mentions the death penalty
>as being an appropriate punishment - it is inconceivable that death was
>concerned a cruel punishment by the authors.
Have you any idea what an absolute bullshit you are throwing around, John?
You are claiming that because the authors of the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights allegedly copied *one* article from the Declaration of
Independence and *one* article from the Bill of Rights, they must have
believed that *everything* written in those documents was right. Is there
*any* evidence for that?
It's like saying "hey, <insert any listmember> agreed with me once, so s/he
definitely agrees with everything I say". You know just as well as I do
that that statement is utterly false.
Especially in your case... <grin>
BTW, the *Constitution* mentions the death penalty, but nowhere do you
claim the authors of the UDoHR copied anything from *that* document.
>Amnesty is simply twisting someone else's words to fit their own political
>agenda on this issue.
John, other people on this list have called you arrogant and narrow-minded.
So far I've given you the benefit of the doubt (although sometimes just
barely), but now I really must agree with them. The statements in your post
show an amount of arrogance and narrow-mindedness that is absolutely
unworthy of a Brineller. AI is a highly-respected organization with a huge
number of supporters around the world; most governments and millions of
people agree with them. Now you dare saying that all those people (and AI
itself) have a wrong interpretation of the UDoHR, and your interpretation
is the only right one. What a crap.
What you say in your post is so absolutely ridiculous, arrogant and
narrow-minded, I don't know whether I should laugh, or cry... :(
Maybe this is a good time for the religious members of this list to start
praying for John's soul...
One last thing:
>> >Last time I checked (about 15 minutes ago...), executing prisoners
>> >was still a violation of human rights.
>>
>>The United Nations apparently does not think so:
>> http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html
You still haven't pointed out where the UN says that executing prisoners is
NOT a violation of human rights.
Jeroen
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